[Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Guatamalan Immigrant Shot Dead By LAPD

If he wasn't then he should not have been hurt

--- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, "Sheep&Goatlady" <springcreek@...> wrote:
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> I do not beleive he was illegal,
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> From: "iloveubuntulinux" <valchaulinux@...>
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> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 5:02 AM
> Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Guatamalan Immigrant Shot Dead
> By LAPD
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>
> So what was he doing in this country? Maybe this will scare folks into NOT
> coming here illegally?
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary" <garyrumor2@>
> > To: <Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:33 PM
> > Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Guatamalan Immigrant Shot Dead By
> > LAPD
> >
> >
> > Guatamalan Immigrant Killed By Los Angeles Police
> > September 9th, 2010
> >
> > Today on KPFK, local Pacifica station, they were interviewing an activist
> > who went to a community meeting last night to try to come up with an
> > action
> > plan regarding the shooting of Manuel Jamines. She said no resolution was
> > made. I am not sure if she was talking about the meeting with the Police
> > Chief or another meeting. Below are several local sources for information
> > on
> > the subject. It seems police murder of minorities with knives is becoming
> > an
> > epidemic. One witness who does not want to be identified claims that
> > Manuel
> > did not have a knife.
> >
> > "PSL demands justice for Manuel Jamines,
> > Immigrant worker killed by LAPD
> > Statement issued by the PSL in Los Angeles
> >
> > The Party for Socialism and Liberation condemns unconditionally the LAPD
> > for
> > the murder of Manuel Jamines, a Guatemalan immigrant day laborer and
> > father.
> > We send our sincere condolences to his family, neighbors and friends.
> >
> > The LAPD claims it was called to the scene on Sunday, Sept. 5 because
> > Jamines was allegedly drunk in public and had a knife. The LAPD is highly
> > trained in "non-lethal" tactics, yet their first response was to shoot
> > Jamines twice in the head. While the police version of events is in
> > question-some witnesses said Jamines had no knife at all-there is no
> > question that Jamines did not deserve to die. The cops killed Jamines on a
> > busy street corner in the immigrant Westlake neighborhood near downtown
> > Los
> > Angeles.
> >
> > The killing ignited a firestorm of justified anger in the Guatemalan
> > immigrant community. As hundreds protested the killing on two successive
> > nights, cops beat and arrested over 20 people and fired rubber bullets
> > indiscriminately, leaving many bloodied on the ground. The LAPD, along
> > with
> > the LA Times, tried to blame the protesters for the police violence
> > against
> > them.
> > It is the same argument that LAPD brass and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa
> > made
> > after Jamines was killed-they said that his death was somehow his fault.
> > They presented the facts as though the cops had no choice but to shoot him
> > at close range. This is what they are still saying, although, in a clear
> > response to the community uprising, now the top cops and politicians are
> > emphasizing the need for a "thorough investigation."
> >
> > To the police and their media apologists, maximum violence, including
> > murder, is perfectly fine if carried out by the LAPD, but any violence or
> > fight back by oppressed people is an obvious crime. This false view turns
> > reality on its head. The Guatemalan community did not buy it for a moment.
> >
> > Organize and fight back
> >
> > Last night, Sept. 8, the LAPD held a "town hall" meeting. It did not go as
> > the police planned. It was a clear effort to pacify the community anger.
> > But
> > LAPD Chief Charlie Beck was booed loudly by the crowd of 300 community
> > members. He was forced to stop speaking several times as people yelled
> > "justice" and called the police "assassins" and "killers" in Spanish. The
> > Associated Press and other major media outlets covered the meeting.
> >
> > PSL member and community activist Marcial Guerra spoke at the event (see
> > the
> > photo above), railing at the police for their assassination of Jamines.
> > "You
> > will not quell the anger of our community with your lies and false
> > promises.
> > These racist killings, police raids and attacks on immigrants must end.
> > The
> > officers who assassinated Jamines must be brought to justice now," Guerra
> > said to massive applause. Other community members spoke out bravely
> > against
> > the cops during the meeting as well.
> >
> > After the town hall meeting, hundreds of people gathered again where
> > Jamines
> > was killed, and the cops launched another unprovoked attack on the crowd
> > by
> > firing concussion grenades and rioting, chasing people in the now heavily
> > militarized area.
> >
> > The brutally excessive use of force by the LAPD on oppressed people, like
> > Jamines, is the norm, not the exception. This is the case not only in Los
> > Angeles, but in poor communities across the country. It is not a case of
> > just one or two "bad cops" or the result of "unfortunate mistakes."
> >
> > Cops are not in communities to solve problems or protect people. They
> > exist
> > to enforce the exploitation of the poor and protect and preserve the
> > capitalist state. Police brutality is a preferred form of social and
> > economic control in the United States.
> >
> > The officers responsible for the death of Manuel Jamines should be fired,
> > arrested and held without bail, and tried for murder. This is how anyone
> > else-other than a cop-would be treated by the capitalist state. But this
> > will not happen on its own or after the LAPD's sham investigation.
> >
> > In this case, the killer cop is a repeat offender. LAPD officer Samuel
> > Hernandez, who killed Jamines, has been put on forced leave twice before
> > for
> > shooting other people. But cops get promoted and rewarded for using deadly
> > force, while their victims get branded as criminals.
> >
> > The only way there will be justice for Jamines, his family, and the
> > community is if we organize together and demand it. For our part, the PSL
> > will continue to work with the Guatemalan community and grassroots
> > organizations to win this fight.
> >
> > Stop police violence! Jail killer cops! Justice for Manuel Jamines!"
> >
> > This is from the LA Times Opinion Page
> >
> > "Chief Beck's challenge
> > Every LAPD chief, it seems, is tested by crisis. The shooting death of a
> > day
> > laborer is shaping up to be that test for new LAPD Chief Charlie Beck.
> > September 10, 2010
> > Sooner or later, every chief of the Los Angeles Police Department is
> > tested.
> >
> > For Chief Bernard C. Parks, the aftermath of the police brutality and
> > corruption scandal in the Rampart Division was such a test. For Chief
> > William J. Bratton, the May Day 2007 melee in MacArthur Park, and the
> > shooting deaths of 13-year-old Devin Brown and 19-month-old Suzie Pena,
> > provoked crises. For Chief Charlie Beck, the shooting of Manuel Jamines, a
> > Guatemalan-born day laborer who police say was wielding a knife, is
> > shaping
> > up to be his first such test. Like his predecessors, Beck will be called
> > on
> > to find the right balance between crime-fighting and community relations,
> > and to steer the evolving LAPD through the complicated politics of L.A.'s
> > multilayered racial and ethnic cultures.
> >
> > Beck is no newcomer to such crises. As captain of the Rampart Division, he
> > worked closely with business owners and residents to restore confidence
> > after the scandal. Under his leadership, MacArthur Park was reclaimed
> > after
> > the fracas there, and a gang-plagued drug market was transformed into a
> > safe
> > community resource.
> >
> > That history did not help him, however, as he addressed an angry throng at
> > John H. Liechty Middle School on Wednesday night. He was booed, denounced
> > as
> > the protector of a killer and as a chief of assassins. In response, Beck
> > promised a fair and transparent investigation that would determine whether
> > the shooting was within departmental policy. It was the right message, no
> > doubt, but his words struck a clinical, dispassionate note to a crowd
> > shouting for justice. To them, Beck did not seem to be addressing the
> > fundamental question, which was not whether the shooting was justifiable
> > according to the rules, but whether it was just.
> >
> > Still, Beck's assurance is important, because many questions about the
> > incident remain: Was Jamines threatening or attacking passersby? Did he
> > menace police officers with a knife? In the 40 seconds Beck says they had
> > to
> > make a decision, could officers have made one that did not involve deadly
> > force?
> >
> > Even when those questions are answered, there will be grievances that go
> > far
> > beyond the shooting. One woman in Wednesday's audience tried to explain to
> > the chief the conditions that force mass migration from Guatemala and El
> > Salvador. Another begged Beck not to deport people arrested in the
> > upheaval.
> > Several residents spoke bitterly about racial profiling, and, after the
> > session, others talked of an anti-Latino mood in California and nationwide
> > that frightens them, and about soaring joblessness and economic
> > desperation.
> >
> > Wednesday's gathering brought little satisfaction to either side. But Beck
> > will have other opportunities to improve the dialogue. In one of Los
> > Angeles' most familiar rituals, officials assured the crowd that before
> > the
> > case was closed, there would surely be other such community meetings.
> > Copyright © 2010, Los Angeles Times
> >
> > Local ABC affiliate abc7.com has stated that a band of Anarchists joined
> > the
> > protests. Their website has a photo gallery of the protests.
> > http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/gallery?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7657984&photo=1
> >
> > CBS affiliate is calling it outside agitators stirring the pot.
> > http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/
> > On their website they have this AP story.
> >
> > "LAPD Protesters Plead Not Guilty
> >
> > September 9, 2010 3:06 PM
> > Man Watches As Police Put Out Fire
> >
> > LOS ANGELES (AP) -Two Los Angeles men have pleaded not guilty
> > to illegally setting a fire during a violent protest over the
> > police shooting of a knife-wielding man.
> >
> > The city attorney's office says 24-year-old Carlos Garcia and
> > 25-year-old Fernando Aguila entered pleas Thursday to two
> > misdemeanor charges each.
> >
> > If convicted, they could each face up to
> > 180 days in Los Angeles County jail and a $1,000 fine.
> > Both men have been released from jail and authorities did not
> > immediately know whether they have obtained lawyers.
> >
> > Prosecutors claim the pair lit a bonfire and threw wood on the
> > blaze Monday night in the first protest of the shooting of
> > 37-year-old Manuel Jamines on Sunday.
> >
> > Police and the mayor have defended the actions of an officer who
> > responded to a report that a man was threatening people with a
> > knife.
> > (© Copyright 2010 The Associated Press.)
> >
> >
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