The American society, don't argue semantics.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@bentonrea.com> wrote:
what acclimating to whose society? Our soceity is a mish mash of various cultures and languages,, I guess there ought to be a law against St. Patrick day,, since that is an Irish orgins,, oh yes, get rid of the christmas tree as their orgins are from germany,, toss out all the chinese resturant since that food in many cases orgins are from China..What do you know about refugees and immigrants?Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:04 AMSubject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism: both have good and bad pointsSo did the united states, huge numbers of refugees. The difference between those refugees and the new ones is accepting and acclimating into the society. The new ones want to change their new countries to resemble the ones they ran away from.
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@bentonrea.com> wrote:
I might add, after WW2,, all these countries took in refugees..----- Original Message -----From: elaine mckaySent: Friday, December 03, 2010 2:31 AMSubject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism: both have good and bad points
Europe has been flooded with refugees from the wars in iraq and afghanistan.Scandinavia has changed it's laws to try and prevent it being as big a problem for them.Big probs in France, where getto's and demonstrations have sprung up, Italy and spain.People in Australia winge about the boat loads of refugees we get which are taken to detention centres, where they demonstrate and stage hunger strikes. however it is such a small number compared to europe.Our lawsw state that children cannot be kept in detention and must go to school. I guess we hope the education will break the cycle.
--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@bentonrea.com> wrote:
From: Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@bentonrea.com>
Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism: both have good and bad points
To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
Received: Friday, 3 December, 2010, 9:03 PM
well, the problem like here is, the foreign workers will work for less,,
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From: "iloveubuntulinux" <valchaulinux@gmail.com>
To: <Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:19 PM
Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism: both
have good and bad points
Europe's socialism has some good points except that it permitted foreign
workers and too much foreign immigration
--- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, patrick mc govern
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> Capitalism is not self sustaining. If there is no middle class to purchase
> goods and services than Capitalism will eventually fail, thus proving that
> no one economic model is the answer. Now where it co exists with a social
> safety net, its thriving. Sweden and Finland are perfect examples of this
> sucessful model
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> Â You can lead people to knowledge but you can't make them think
>
> --- On Tue, 11/30/10, Dave Ketchum <davek@...> wrote:
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> From: Dave Ketchum <davek@...>
> Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Socialism vs. Capitalism: Which is
> the Moral System
> To: PEACENET@..., Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 9:47 PM
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> Â
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> Reading too much about the evils of capitalism, I went looking for a
> defense, and found one I liked: Â
> "http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/onprin/v1n3/thompson.html" -Â On
> Principle, v1n3, October 1993, by: C. Bradley Thompson.  Based on the
> words I like there:
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>
>
> "The intellectualsâ?T mantra runs something like this: In theory socialism
> is the morally superior social system despite its dismal record of failure
> in the real world. Capitalism, by contrast, is a morally bankrupt system
> despite the extraordinary prosperity it has created. In other words,
> capitalism at best, can only be defended on pragmatic grounds. We tolerate
> it because it works."
>
>
> "Capitalism is the only moral system because it requires human beings to
> deal with one another as traders--that is, as free moral agents trading
> and selling goods and services on the basis of mutual consent."
> "Capitalism is the only just system because the sole criterion that
> determines the value of thing exchanged is the free, voluntary, universal
> judgement of the consumer. Coercion and fraud are anathema to the
> free-market system."
> I think of restaurants as, usually, capitalistic efforts - rewarding those
> who produce well. Â On the other hand, some of what involves lots of money
> is not truly capitalism because of the ways decisions are made and
> rewarded.
> Seems like we live in a mixed economy of capitalism and socialism. Â Makes
> sense, but we could sometimes do better as to how we mix them together. Â
> Part of what I read here seems biased too much against socialism.
>
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