Re: [gingery_machines] Forge? Sand? Cope/Drag? Practice? Stock? Tools? Tig? Everything? Check, Check, Check... Pattern Making?! Not so much.

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Friday, April 1, 2011

Indeed, the old tools that were all cast were incredible. I have a friend
with a 7 or 8 foot tall english wheel thats all one casting, and its just
phenomenal to work with, any modern wheeling machine just seems like a toy
in comparison

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:06 PM, David Frantz <websterindustro@mac.com>wrote:

>
>
> Cast-iron is the most beautiful metal for making machine tools. It casts
> very nicely and does so without the huge shrink ratios of some metals. More
> importantly you can build structures out of it that resist vibration.
>
> From the standpoint of a foundry cast irons biggest short coming is the
> high melt temperatures which imply a different level of commitment.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Cole <coleston@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > And no cast-iron... I've tried welding it and it explodes, I've tried
> > forging it and it shatters, I don't even want to find out what it does
> when
> > you melt it.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Cole <coleston@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ok I hear what you guys are saying, and I've made a couple of patterns
> for
> >> sure, but I don't find it to be the best part at all. I just have done
> too
> >> much carpentry over the years and I dont like it.
> >>
> >> Eventually I'll be making the patterns with a 3D printer... design on
> PC,
> >> hit print, mount to match plate, and boom! Beauty like, even if I have
> to
> >> redraw all the gingery parts (which I know people have done before) and
> get
> >> them commercially printed then that's what I'll do... I understand you
> guys
> >> thinking it's important to do the carpentry... but I don't. I'm young
> and I
> >> want to integrate technology. Anyway, I guess I'll just do up the pieces
> in
> >> sketchup and get them printed
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Rick <rgsparber@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Amen!
> >>>
> >>> I am almost hopeless when it comes to woodworking yet managed to make a
> >>> decent set of patterns. It is extremely satisfying to make the
> patterns, do
> >>> the casting, and be able to hold the finished product in your hand.
> >>>
> >>> I encourage you to try it just once even if it is just a block of wood.
> >>>
> >>> Rick (via iPod)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Patterson <odd_kins@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Have fun with making your gingery tools. But sorry to hear your giving
> >>> up on the best part of the foundry industry so soon, Patternmaking.
> Like
> >>> anything else if you don't have the right tools it becomes a chore. For
> the
> >>> Gingery tools you'll need a small tablesaw, drill press and sandpaper.
> A 12"
> >>> disc sander would be nice too, but not required. Once you learn how to
> build
> >>> patterns, you've opened up a whole new world, in the foundry. Learn to
> build
> >>> patterns then you can design and/or build anything. The foundry then
> become
> >>> another tool between the idea and the finished part.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave Patterson
> >>>> odd_kins@yahoo.com
> >>>> http://home.comcast.net/~oddkins/foundry_home.html
> >>>>
> >>>> --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Cole <coleston@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> From: Cole <coleston@gmail.com>
> >>>> Subject: [gingery_machines] Forge? Sand? Cope/Drag? Practice? Stock?
> >>> Tools? Tig? Everything? Check, Check, Check... Pattern Making?! Not so
> much.
> >>>> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 6:32 AM
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello everyone, I made a few posts here over the years, and have
> reached
> >>> the
> >>>> point where I am ready to start building the machines. I have all the
> >>> books,
> >>>> I have made a bunch of fairly successful pours of aluminum,
> beercanium,
> >>>> bronze and brass. I made a small army of rubber duckies of the various
> >>>> metals.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I wish to start, so I got out some files and carpentry tools and
> >>> scrap
> >>>> bits of pine the other night, and you know what? I really dislike
> >>> precision
> >>>> carpentry.
> >>>>
> >>>> So I would like to buy or borrow a set of patterns. Once I have the
> >>>> pattern's I can make a mould from them with plastic and then remake
> them
> >>> in
> >>>> plastic and send them back to the owner. (Since I was learning how to
> do
> >>> it
> >>>> with sand and metal, bought a few other compounds to fool around with
> as
> >>>> well, eventually I'd like to do lost wax.)
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm located in Toronto, Canada.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like the patterns for the lathe, preferably with the 4 jaw chuck,
> as
> >>>> well as the patterns for the mill. I have paypal or can do email money
> >>>> transfers or if you're in southern ontario I'll just show up with cash
> >>> or
> >>>> beer or whatever.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks so much for reading guys, you guys are the best.
> >>>> Sincerely
> >>>> -Cole Pluzak
> >>>>
> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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