reasons or do to the level of difficulty, I'm doing this because I don't
like carpentry. I've been building things out of wood for many years, and
I've never liked it. I want to be able to build these machines without IMO
sullying them with wooden patterns.
Sorry but I'm young and thick headed and I like to do things my way. I see
where you guys are all coming from, but I just don't want to do it that way.
I have many plans and projects to do with the machines once they are built,
but for the project of actually building them... I want to do it my way, you
know?
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:08 PM, David Patterson <odd_kins@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Cole I thing you'll find it's not as easy as hit print and boom your done.
> I've worked as a patternmaker for most all my working life. Although
> technology is great, without an understanding of what is required to get a
> pattern to work for you you'll just run into more problems using the
> computer to design your patterns. I also did 2 years of cnc work using
> cad/cam to design and mill patterns. I use a 3d scanner and plotter at home
> for fun. I have a small cnc mill, that rarely gets used to make any kind of
> pattern. It still easier to design and build patterns by hand. From what
> I've seen of the Gingery series the patterns are quite simple. The
> time spent designing them with a cad program, would be a waste, except to
> learn how to use the cad program. However, if you have a complex pattern
> with compound surfaces or that needs to be accurate between pattern and
> core, cad/cam is great.
>
>
> Dave Patterson
> odd_kins@yahoo.com
> http://home.comcast.net/~oddkins/foundry_home.html
>
> --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Cole <coleston@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Cole <coleston@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] Forge? Sand? Cope/Drag? Practice? Stock?
> Tools? Tig? Everything? Check, Check, Check... Pattern Making?! Not so much.
>
> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 4:57 AM
>
>
> Ok I hear what you guys are saying, and I've made a couple of patterns for
> sure, but I don't find it to be the best part at all. I just have done too
> much carpentry over the years and I dont like it.
>
> Eventually I'll be making the patterns with a 3D printer... design on PC,
> hit print, mount to match plate, and boom! Beauty like, even if I have to
> redraw all the gingery parts (which I know people have done before) and get
> them commercially printed then that's what I'll do... I understand you guys
> thinking it's important to do the carpentry... but I don't. I'm young and I
> want to integrate technology. Anyway, I guess I'll just do up the pieces in
> sketchup and get them printed
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Rick <rgsparber@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Amen!
> >
> > I am almost hopeless when it comes to woodworking yet managed to make a
> > decent set of patterns. It is extremely satisfying to make the patterns,
> do
> > the casting, and be able to hold the finished product in your hand.
> >
> > I encourage you to try it just once even if it is just a block of wood.
> >
> > Rick (via iPod)
> >
> >
> > On Mar 31, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Patterson <odd_kins@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Have fun with making your gingery tools. But sorry to hear your giving
> up
> > on the best part of the foundry industry so soon, Patternmaking. Like
> > anything else if you don't have the right tools it becomes a chore. For
> the
> > Gingery tools you'll need a small tablesaw, drill press and sandpaper. A
> 12"
> > disc sander would be nice too, but not required. Once you learn how to
> build
> > patterns, you've opened up a whole new world, in the foundry. Learn to
> build
> > patterns then you can design and/or build anything. The foundry then
> become
> > another tool between the idea and the finished part.
> > >
> > > Dave Patterson
> > > odd_kins@yahoo.com
> > > http://home.comcast.net/~oddkins/foundry_home.html
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Cole <coleston@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Cole <coleston@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [gingery_machines] Forge? Sand? Cope/Drag? Practice? Stock?
> > Tools? Tig? Everything? Check, Check, Check... Pattern Making?! Not so
> much.
> > > To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 6:32 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello everyone, I made a few posts here over the years, and have
> reached
> > the
> > > point where I am ready to start building the machines. I have all the
> > books,
> > > I have made a bunch of fairly successful pours of aluminum, beercanium,
> > > bronze and brass. I made a small army of rubber duckies of the various
> > > metals.
> > >
> > > Now I wish to start, so I got out some files and carpentry tools and
> > scrap
> > > bits of pine the other night, and you know what? I really dislike
> > precision
> > > carpentry.
> > >
> > > So I would like to buy or borrow a set of patterns. Once I have the
> > > pattern's I can make a mould from them with plastic and then remake
> them
> > in
> > > plastic and send them back to the owner. (Since I was learning how to
> do
> > it
> > > with sand and metal, bought a few other compounds to fool around with
> as
> > > well, eventually I'd like to do lost wax.)
> > >
> > > I'm located in Toronto, Canada.
> > >
> > > I'd like the patterns for the lathe, preferably with the 4 jaw chuck,
> as
> > > well as the patterns for the mill. I have paypal or can do email money
> > > transfers or if you're in southern ontario I'll just show up with cash
> or
> > > beer or whatever.
> > >
> > > Thanks so much for reading guys, you guys are the best.
> > > Sincerely
> > > -Cole Pluzak
> > >
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