Hi,
Indeed, the individual "junk" or should I now say the recycle business does work on pennies, but not as many as eBay. The key to a good operation is 1) volume and 2) the least amount of hand-offs, i.e., the more you touch it, the less money one makes. I was invited to "visit" a facility over the next few weeks (they are looking for low-cost advice <smile>)
In any event, as a cash business the legitimate ones (honest and direct) will simply weight the metal, and likely double the buy price for a sale - also in cash. If you are friends, the price is better.
I do know of a couple of folks in the business who are not as "honest" under the minimize hands-on rule. For example - you bring in a bucket of copper tubing and in the bucket there are brass fittings - the fellow will price the lot as brass. The guy I frequent, spills the material out, does a quick sort - copper, clean, dirty(solder), brass(plated vs. clean) and weights them separately. The result - the sellers gets more money and tends to bring in more material. Lots of "old" siding, window frames, etc... comes in - if it has steel nails - that lowers the price.
I do bring in doughnuts and as friends, if I need something.... For example - I got a Sheldon lathe about to be put in the dumpster. FYI cast iron at the time was $0.09/lb, the other day, it was $0.12/lb.
So, if you are collecting metals for sale: 1)sort out the metal. 2) If labor is cheap, strip the wire. 3) Motors are different from compressors (drain them), 4) All aluminum is good and it is shocking how many car wheels show up 5) Light iron/steel is cheap.
With the disaster in Japan - we will likely see a rise in utility metals as rebuilding begins, akin to what happened when China built the facilities for the Olympics, but it will be over a longer bit of time.
Be well,
DBN
--- On Wed, 4/27/11, Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] Re: Making bullet molds and casting your own bullets from scrap...
To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 12:53 PM
I do have some 3/4" or 1" copper pipe, maybe they'll trade me... The one
that pissed me off was because I wanted to buy more than 100lbs and the shop
told me to call the boss down in El Pisso and he would make me a better
price for buying 100 or 200 lbs. But every time I called, same story,
either he was gone or whoever was there no speaka da English... After a
while, I stopped calling. Maybe I'll go by their place here in town when I
use up what I have stockpiled.
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I wouldn't worry too much about the legal issues of birthright but most of
> these fellows do not conduct a retail shop and certainly won't tend to call
> back unless you are dealing with a large quantity of metal.
>
> Stop by, say hello and see what chunks of lead they may have. In my area,
> the price they buy lead for is about $0.60-0.65/lb.
>
> Now, if you have copper to sell - they will like to see you and will pay
> upwards of $3.70/lb (brite, clean copper).
>
> Be well,
> DBN
>
> --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] Re: Making bullet molds and casting your
> own bullets from scrap...
> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 11:26 AM
>
>
> Yes, you can, but sometimes the bastards won't call you back. I don't
> remember what price they quoted me for lead tire weights, something like
> 35cents/lb or something, which was good at the time as far as price goes.
> Not sure now. I did buy two 5 gallon buckets 2/3 full of weights from a
> auto salvage yard for quite a bit less than that though. They didn't have
> any bent aluminum wheels at that time, had just all been sold...
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Druid Noibn <druid_noibn@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Before pulling out catalogs and being surprised about shipping costs -
> > check out your "local" scrap metal (recyclers) - lead is often found at
> > these places and at a better price.
> >
> > Be well,
> > DBN
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] Re: Making bullet molds and casting your
> > own bullets from scrap...
> > To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 6:08 PM
> >
> >
> > Yeah, I do seem to recall that. But where the hell do you get lead wire
> > from?
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Pierre Coueffin <pcoueffin@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > My girlfriend's grandfather casts a lot of dwnrigger weights using
> > > tire-weights. He uses 2-part steel molds, with alignment pins to
> > > keep the halves from shifting. He likes to let the mold heat up over
> > > the crucible of lead before pouring, to make the lead flow better.
> > >
> > > Did you see the article a year or so back about swaging bullets from
> > > lead wire in either HSM or MW about a year back? It is very
> > > interesting stuff.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Nick A
> >
> > "You know what I wish? I wish that all the scum of the world had but a
> > single throat, and I had my hands about it..." Rorschach, 1975
> >
> > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > safety
> > deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin, Historical
> Review
> > of Pennsylvania, 1759
> >
> > "Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names the
> > streets after them." Bill Vaughan
> >
> > "The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."
> > Plato
> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Nick A
>
> "You know what I wish? I wish that all the scum of the world had but a
> single throat, and I had my hands about it..." Rorschach, 1975
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review
> of Pennsylvania, 1759
>
> "Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names the
> streets after them." Bill Vaughan
>
> "The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."
> Plato
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
--
Nick A
"You know what I wish? I wish that all the scum of the world had but a
single throat, and I had my hands about it..." Rorschach, 1975
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review
of Pennsylvania, 1759
"Suburbia is where the developer bulldozes out the trees, then names the
streets after them." Bill Vaughan
"The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."
Plato
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