[Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: Should Schwarzenegger and Strauss-Kahn be Prosecuted for Adultery?no

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Monday, May 30, 2011

 

A agree with you that reading can be very helpful. I think that Arnold Schwarzenegger could have been taught to always act completely ethically.

--- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, "Sheep&Goatlady" <springcreek@...> wrote:
>
> You think so? reading in many cases can acatually help a person understand
> their own behavior,, the one way to actually study a brain is when a person
> is quite dead,
> ** An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind Gandhi **
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "iloveubuntulinux" <valchaulinux@...>
> To: <Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:44 PM
> Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: Should Schwarzenegger and
> Strauss-Kahn be Prosecuted for Adultery?no
>
>
> > reading books can't overcome people whose brains are not able to control
> > impulses...there is a doctor who studies brains, Dr Amen (not the
> > religious meaning).
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, "zeus32117"
> > <zeus32117@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I wish that Arnold had studied enough Ethics to always act ethically.
> >> Because of how much everything is interconnected, mistreating one is
> >> mistreating all. It causes everyone to suffer more. It causes the
> >> offender to suffer more as well, which is one of the reasons why I read
> >> books on how to communicate more effectively. I do not want to suffer
> >> more, so I am trying to learn how to communicate without offending
> >> anyone.
> >>
> >> --- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, "Sheep&Goatlady"
> >> <springcreek@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > There has been several women in the past tell about how he groped them
> >> > several times,,some folks call him a gropernator,
> >> > ** An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind Gandhi **
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: elaine mckay
> >> > To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:16 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: Should
> >> > Schwarzenegger and Strauss-Kahn be Prosecuted for Adultery?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Governator, terminator, adulterator, fornicator.
> >> >
> >> > --- On Wed, 25/5/11, iloveubuntulinux <valchaulinux@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > From: iloveubuntulinux <valchaulinux@>
> >> > Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: Should
> >> > Schwarzenegger and Strauss-Kahn be Prosecuted for Adultery?
> >> > To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Received: Wednesday, 25 May, 2011, 12:05 AM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 1. Neither should be prosecuted for adultery
> >> > 2. Schwarzenegger has already lost a beautiful wife due to
> >> > his stupidity so that is punishment enough
> >> > 3. I don't know if Strauss-Kahn even committed adultery since
> >> > I don't count non consenual sex as adultery. He should be prosecuted
> >> > for unwanted sexual advances or rape depending upon what he did
> >> >
> >> > --- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, Bruce
> >> > Majors <majors.bruce@> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > *"This entire area provides a dividing line between
> >> > libertarians and
> >> > > statists. Libertarians hold that a person should be free to
> >> > engage in any
> >> > > conduct whatsoever without the interference of the state,
> >> > so long as the
> >> > > conduct is peaceful. In fact, Christian libertarians
> >> > believe that this is
> >> > > what God's great gift of free will is all about -- the
> >> > freedom to choose
> >> > > between sin and righteous conduct, so long as there is no
> >> > force initiated
> >> > > against another human being (e.g., murder, theft, rape,
> >> > etc.)."
> >> > >
> >> > > *Thursday, May 19, 2010
> >> > > *Should Schwarzenegger and Strauss-Kahn be Prosecuted for
> >> > Adultery?
> >> > > *by Jacob G. Hornberger
> >> > >
> >> > > One of the silliest and not-thought-out arguments that
> >> > drug-war proponents
> >> > > make against libertarians is the following: "Since you
> >> > favor drug
> >> > > legalization, that means that you favor drug abuse." The
> >> > accusation is a
> >> > > perfect example of the mindset that public-schooling
> >> > produces within people,
> >> > > one that examines matters in a purely superficial way, one
> >> > in which there is
> >> > > no analytic or critical thinking involved.
> >> > >
> >> > > The fact that someone does not wish to criminalize some
> >> > particular conduct
> >> > > does not necessarily mean that he favors the commission of
> >> > the conduct. He
> >> > > might, but not necessarily.
> >> > >
> >> > > Libertarians favor drug legalization first and foremost as
> >> > a matter of
> >> > > individual freedom. Under fundamental principles of
> >> > freedom, people have the
> >> > > right to ingest harmful substances, even if everyone else
> >> > disagrees with the
> >> > > choice. Second, libertarians point to the horrific
> >> > consequences of the drug
> >> > > war -- violence, gangs, cartels, corruption, robberies,
> >> > muggings, etcetera
> >> > > -- as a secondary reason for calling for drug legalization.
> >> > >
> >> > > Within this context, I can't help but wonder how many
> >> > statists would like to
> >> > > see former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger criminally
> >> > prosecuted for
> >> > > adultery.
> >> > >
> >> > > Adultery? Yes, adultery.
> >> > >
> >> > > You might respond, "Jacob, that would be ridiculous.
> >> > Adultery is a breach of
> >> > > private marital obligations and a violation of the Ten
> >> > Commandments. That's
> >> > > no business of the state and it certainly shouldn't be a
> >> > criminal offense."
> >> > >
> >> > > Yet, the person with a drug-war mentality might well
> >> > respond, "Oh, so you
> >> > > favor adultery? Anyone who favors the legalization of
> >> > adultery must favor
> >> > > the commission of the act itself."
> >> > >
> >> > > I think it's easy to see that that, again, is ridiculous,
> >> > superficial
> >> > > thinking. People might well believe that adultery is no
> >> > business of the
> >> > > state but, at the same time, not feel that it is morally
> >> > right or
> >> > > appropriate behavior.
> >> > >
> >> > > One reason that statists are not clamoring for prosecuting
> >> > Schwarzenegger
> >> > > for adultery is that it isn't a criminal offense in
> >> > California. But it is in
> >> > > 19 other states, including New York. That's the state in
> >> > which former IMF
> >> > > head Dominique Strauss-Kahn is being held on criminal
> >> > charges of rape and
> >> > > sexual abuse of a hotel chambermaid.
> >> > >
> >> > > Why might the New York adultery statute become relevant in
> >> > Strauss-Kahn's
> >> > > case? His lawyers are insinuating that he did in fact
> >> > engage in sex with the
> >> > > chambermaid but that the relations were consensual. Such
> >> > being the case,
> >> > > Strauss-Kahn might well be confessing to the crime of
> >> > adultery while
> >> > > defending himself against the other charges. The reason he
> >> > might be willing
> >> > > to take such a chance is that adultery in New York is a
> >> > misdemeanor while
> >> > > the other charges are felonies.
> >> > >
> >> > > This entire area provides a dividing line between
> >> > libertarians and statists.
> >> > > Libertarians hold that a person should be free to engage in
> >> > any conduct
> >> > > whatsoever without the interference of the state, so long
> >> > as the conduct is
> >> > > peaceful. In fact, Christian libertarians believe that this
> >> > is what God's
> >> > > great gift of free will is all about -- the freedom to
> >> > choose between sin
> >> > > and righteous conduct, so long as there is no force
> >> > initiated against
> >> > > another human being (e.g., murder, theft, rape, etc.).
> >> > >
> >> > > Statists, on the other hand, while oftentimes giving lip
> >> > service to freedom
> >> > > of choice and free will, in practice condemn such ideas.
> >> > They feel that God
> >> > > was wrong to trust man with so much freedom and that when
> >> > free to make such
> >> > > choices, most people will choose wrongly. Therefore,
> >> > statists say, the
> >> > > coercive apparatus of the state should punish people when
> >> > they make these
> >> > > types of immoral, harmful, or sinful choices.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thus, it is not surprising that statists favor criminal
> >> > laws that punish
> >> > > people for such peaceful and consensual acts as gambling,
> >> > prostitution,
> >> > > adultery, drug possession, drinking, and smoking. It is
> >> > also not surprising
> >> > > that there are horrible consequences when they do.
> >> > >
> >> > > No, neither Schwarzenegger nor Strauss-Kahn should be
> >> > prosecuted for
> >> > > adultery, any more than drug users, gamblers, prostitutes,
> >> > drinkers, smokers
> >> > > should be prosecuted for their acts. Adultery is a matter
> >> > for God and the
> >> > > people involved to resolve, not Caesar.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2011-05-19.asp
> >> > >
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