reading books can't overcome people whose brains are not able to control impulses...there is a doctor who studies brains, Dr Amen (not the religious meaning).
--- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, "zeus32117" <zeus32117@...> wrote:
>
> I wish that Arnold had studied enough Ethics to always act ethically. Because of how much everything is interconnected, mistreating one is mistreating all. It causes everyone to suffer more. It causes the offender to suffer more as well, which is one of the reasons why I read books on how to communicate more effectively. I do not want to suffer more, so I am trying to learn how to communicate without offending anyone.
>
> --- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, "Sheep&Goatlady" <springcreek@> wrote:
> >
> > There has been several women in the past tell about how he groped them several times,,some folks call him a gropernator,
> > ** An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind Gandhi **
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: elaine mckay
> > To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: Should Schwarzenegger and Strauss-Kahn be Prosecuted for Adultery?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Governator, terminator, adulterator, fornicator.
> >
> > --- On Wed, 25/5/11, iloveubuntulinux <valchaulinux@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: iloveubuntulinux <valchaulinux@>
> > Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: Should Schwarzenegger and Strauss-Kahn be Prosecuted for Adultery?
> > To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Wednesday, 25 May, 2011, 12:05 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. Neither should be prosecuted for adultery
> > 2. Schwarzenegger has already lost a beautiful wife due to his stupidity so that is punishment enough
> > 3. I don't know if Strauss-Kahn even committed adultery since I don't count non consenual sex as adultery. He should be prosecuted for unwanted sexual advances or rape depending upon what he did
> >
> > --- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@> wrote:
> > >
> > > *"This entire area provides a dividing line between libertarians and
> > > statists. Libertarians hold that a person should be free to engage in any
> > > conduct whatsoever without the interference of the state, so long as the
> > > conduct is peaceful. In fact, Christian libertarians believe that this is
> > > what God's great gift of free will is all about -- the freedom to choose
> > > between sin and righteous conduct, so long as there is no force initiated
> > > against another human being (e.g., murder, theft, rape, etc.)."
> > >
> > > *Thursday, May 19, 2010
> > > *Should Schwarzenegger and Strauss-Kahn be Prosecuted for Adultery?
> > > *by Jacob G. Hornberger
> > >
> > > One of the silliest and not-thought-out arguments that drug-war proponents
> > > make against libertarians is the following: "Since you favor drug
> > > legalization, that means that you favor drug abuse." The accusation is a
> > > perfect example of the mindset that public-schooling produces within people,
> > > one that examines matters in a purely superficial way, one in which there is
> > > no analytic or critical thinking involved.
> > >
> > > The fact that someone does not wish to criminalize some particular conduct
> > > does not necessarily mean that he favors the commission of the conduct. He
> > > might, but not necessarily.
> > >
> > > Libertarians favor drug legalization first and foremost as a matter of
> > > individual freedom. Under fundamental principles of freedom, people have the
> > > right to ingest harmful substances, even if everyone else disagrees with the
> > > choice. Second, libertarians point to the horrific consequences of the drug
> > > war -- violence, gangs, cartels, corruption, robberies, muggings, etcetera
> > > -- as a secondary reason for calling for drug legalization.
> > >
> > > Within this context, I can't help but wonder how many statists would like to
> > > see former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger criminally prosecuted for
> > > adultery.
> > >
> > > Adultery? Yes, adultery.
> > >
> > > You might respond, "Jacob, that would be ridiculous. Adultery is a breach of
> > > private marital obligations and a violation of the Ten Commandments. That's
> > > no business of the state and it certainly shouldn't be a criminal offense."
> > >
> > > Yet, the person with a drug-war mentality might well respond, "Oh, so you
> > > favor adultery? Anyone who favors the legalization of adultery must favor
> > > the commission of the act itself."
> > >
> > > I think it's easy to see that that, again, is ridiculous, superficial
> > > thinking. People might well believe that adultery is no business of the
> > > state but, at the same time, not feel that it is morally right or
> > > appropriate behavior.
> > >
> > > One reason that statists are not clamoring for prosecuting Schwarzenegger
> > > for adultery is that it isn't a criminal offense in California. But it is in
> > > 19 other states, including New York. That's the state in which former IMF
> > > head Dominique Strauss-Kahn is being held on criminal charges of rape and
> > > sexual abuse of a hotel chambermaid.
> > >
> > > Why might the New York adultery statute become relevant in Strauss-Kahn's
> > > case? His lawyers are insinuating that he did in fact engage in sex with the
> > > chambermaid but that the relations were consensual. Such being the case,
> > > Strauss-Kahn might well be confessing to the crime of adultery while
> > > defending himself against the other charges. The reason he might be willing
> > > to take such a chance is that adultery in New York is a misdemeanor while
> > > the other charges are felonies.
> > >
> > > This entire area provides a dividing line between libertarians and statists.
> > > Libertarians hold that a person should be free to engage in any conduct
> > > whatsoever without the interference of the state, so long as the conduct is
> > > peaceful. In fact, Christian libertarians believe that this is what God's
> > > great gift of free will is all about -- the freedom to choose between sin
> > > and righteous conduct, so long as there is no force initiated against
> > > another human being (e.g., murder, theft, rape, etc.).
> > >
> > > Statists, on the other hand, while oftentimes giving lip service to freedom
> > > of choice and free will, in practice condemn such ideas. They feel that God
> > > was wrong to trust man with so much freedom and that when free to make such
> > > choices, most people will choose wrongly. Therefore, statists say, the
> > > coercive apparatus of the state should punish people when they make these
> > > types of immoral, harmful, or sinful choices.
> > >
> > > Thus, it is not surprising that statists favor criminal laws that punish
> > > people for such peaceful and consensual acts as gambling, prostitution,
> > > adultery, drug possession, drinking, and smoking. It is also not surprising
> > > that there are horrible consequences when they do.
> > >
> > > No, neither Schwarzenegger nor Strauss-Kahn should be prosecuted for
> > > adultery, any more than drug users, gamblers, prostitutes, drinkers, smokers
> > > should be prosecuted for their acts. Adultery is a matter for God and the
> > > people involved to resolve, not Caesar.
> > >
> > > http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2011-05-19.asp
> > >
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