i have a 3 phase millthat has been on the back urner for 10 years IT HAS SOME
RUST ON COLUMN [6" ] AND ON THE TABLE JUST FROM SITTING what is best product to
remove surface rust
----- Original Message ----
From: Nick Andrews <nickjandrews@gmail.com>
To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 12:42:29 PM
Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] flux
No one here in town had washing soda, so I bought six boxes of Arm & Hammer
off ebay. Now, Walmart carries in the laundry section for about 3 bucks per
55oz box.
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net> wrote:
> **
>
>
> Washing soda is sodium carbonate (per wikipedia). IIRC, it's what I used to
> use to raise the PH in my pool years back. I think they called it PH-UP or
> some such marketing name.
>
> I offer this because it seems like there can be widely-varying
> prices-per-unit-quantity for the same stuff depending on where you get it.
> Years back, I ran across some 'magic' rust-inhibitor called 'Extend'. After
> some research, it turns out it was basically just phosphoric acid repackaged
> and sold for a lot more than it should have been. I also recall a guy I
> worked with (who should have known better) spending $20 ($19.95, not
> available in stores, act now, ...) for a magic thawing tray that would
> quickly thaw meats laid on it. When he decribed it to me, it was obvious it
> was just some metal with good heat conduction and some surface area. After a
> little more discussion, I laughed at him and told him he just bought a
> way-overpriced slab of aluminum. As an aside, we've got an aluminum griddle
> that we also use to quickly thaw meats the same way. Not quite its intended
> purpose, but hey...
>
> I don't know the price-per-pound difference in washing soda from the
> grocery vs the pool store vs whereever else you trip across it. There's a
> point where if it's only a few cents and the more expensive store is closer,
> it might not be worth your drive to go further. When I have choices, I try
> to avoid sources where the magic goo is intended for human ingestion
> (especially health-food stores). Hardware and feed stores are usually better
> (reference the bentonite discussion). I'm not quite sure where pool
> chemicals fit in the price continuum.
>
> The catch is to be knowledgeable if you can. I don't always win, but I do
> try.
>
> Jim Ash
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: joel wahl
> Sent: Jun 23, 2011 3:14 AM
> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] flux
>
> why do you need to turn your source aluminium, to ingots first before
> casting?
> And where do i find washing soda?
>
> thanks joel
> --- On Wed, 6/22/11, Malcolm Parker-Lisberg <mparkerlisberg@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: Malcolm Parker-Lisberg <mparkerlisberg@yahoo.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] flux
> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 7:08 PM
>
> Jim
>
> You don't need a flux when melting aluminium. Use a twist of aluminium foil
> with LoSalt in it to degas and a twist of aluminum foil with washing soda in
> it to increase fluidity. Stir in both, one at a time, just before pouring,
> skim then pour.
>
> Turn your source aluminium, to ingots first before casting.
>
> Malcolm
>
> I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy it!
>
> --- On Thu, 6/23/11, Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> From: Jim Ash <ashcan@earthlink.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] flux
>
> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
>
> Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 12:56 AM
>
> Somewhere I heard/read about using borax, but then I just saw on the
> backyard metal casting site somebody's recommendation to NOT use it because
> it's reactive with aluminum. Can somebody with a better knowledge of
> metallurgy/chemistry comment on this?
>
> Jim Ash
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: matrice197
>
> Sent: Jun 22, 2011 5:07 PM
>
> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
>
> Subject: [gingery_machines] flux
>
> I work at a Galvanizing plant, we use ammonium cloride as a flux. Can I use
> this for my aluminum casting?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
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>
>
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