Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Murdered for his belief: Another victim of Terrorist Sunni Islam

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Sunday, August 29, 2010

 

I'm just saying when the demographics change, (many moslems) I hope everyine is as tolerant asd they are now. A group of people who lost loved ones in 9/11 are saying "let them come in peace". OK Just don't complain after the fact.

--- On Mon, 30/8/10, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@bentonrea.com> wrote:

From: Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@bentonrea.com>
Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Murdered for his belief: Another victim of Terrorist Sunni Islam
To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 9:59 AM

 

Again, I have not seen this,
----- Original Message -----
From: Susan
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Murdered for his belief: Another victim of Terrorist Sunni Islam

Oh bull, why don't you address the subject at hand. Muslims for the most part are intolerant of other who believe differently. 

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@bentonrea.com> wrote:
 

Well, we have folks in the US that want to rule this country with their christianity religion
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Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Murdered for his belief: Another victim of Terrorist Sunni Islam

Hi Kisan. I cannot comprehend living in a civilization run by a religion. There appears to be no live and let live. I can't see what it matters if someone doesn't agree with a rigid belief. People in this country have enough to do with working, paying a mortgage, raising their children, etc. Why is it so important to muslims (radical) that everyone agree with them? If they feel others aren't on the right path, why can't they just let them "go to hell"? Why kill them? I guess that follows what the koran says. I't seems more peaceful in countries where the people have the freedom to believe what they wan't. Are there religious police where you live? 

--- On Wed, 25/8/10, Kisan <mailbhejna@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: Kisan <mailbhejna@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Murdered for his belief: Another victim of Terrorist Sunni Islam
To: "wide minds" <wideminds@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Wednesday, 25 August, 2010, 10:52 PM

 
 
Posted on Wed, Aug. 25, 2010


U.S. citizen slain over his religion in his native Pakistan

By David O'Reilly
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Habib Peer closed his Germantown newsstand last year and moved back to Pakistan, his passport made no note of his religion.
Since 1990 he had been a resident and citizen of the United States, where being an Ahmadiyya Muslim is no offense. But in his homeland, Peer's faith made him a target, his family said.
On Thursday, as he drove with a young nephew through the southern city of Sanghar, two motorbikes approached his car. One of the masked drivers fired a handgun twice through the open window, instantly killing the 60-year-old Peer.
His nephew, 13, survived to describe the assassination. "That's just how [the boy's] father died," recalled Mujeeb Chaudhary, Peer's brother-in-law and a Philadelphia pharmacist.
"It was a targeted killing, only because of his religion."
Four years earlier, Peer's brother, Pasha, a physician who cared for the poor of Sanghar, was shot twice in the head as he left his clinic one evening. His killer ran off and was never found.
Widowed the year his brother died, Peer had moved back to Pakistan to care for Pasha's widow, whom he married, and to help raise his brother's children.
Ahmadis follow the Indian mystic Mirza Gulam Ahmad, who in 1887 announced that he was the messiah, or Mahdi, predicted in early Islamic writings as one who would purify Islam near the end of time.
Nearly all Muslims view Ahmad as a heretic, and his followers as inauthentic Muslims. Although tolerated in some Muslim nations, they are especially disdained in Pakistan, whose constitution and passports identify Ahmadis as non-Muslim.
That nation's four million Ahmadis are forbidden by law to publicly practice their religion, and they can be jailed for blasphemy if they greet Sunni or Shiite Muslims with the traditional "salaam alaykum" or wear Muslim garb.
Mainstream mullahs and imams denounce Ahmadis, with some blaming their presence for the floods ravaging Pakistan. "Some [leaders] even tell their people it is their duty to kill us," said Chaudhary, who came to the United States in 1972 and is president of the 450-member Philadelphia-area Ahmadiyya community.
The failure of the Pakistani government to suppress such virulent talk, he said, is tantamount to "state-sponsored terrorism."
Chaudhary added, "The authorities made very little effort for Pasha, and they will do the same for Habib."
Nadeem Kiani, press attache at the Pakistani embassy in Washington, denied on Tuesday that his government fosters a climate of hostility toward religious minorities, including Ahmadis.
"Yes, they are considered a religious minority," he said, "but they have complete protection and all the constitutional rights."
Kiani said he was not familiar with Peer's murder, but said "if any person is murdered, there are legal ways for the family to prosecute the person accused," although "these can take time."
Nicole Thompson, a spokeswoman for the State Department, said Tuesday that the Obama administration was "in constant engagement with the government of Pakistan on issues of religious freedom."
Teresita Schaffer, former U.S. ambassador to Sri Lanka, said Tuesday that the Ahmadiyya community's cause "is far down on [the State Department's] list," though recent violence against Ahmadis is among the worst that nation has seen since its founding in the 1940s.
Schaffer cited the May grenade and assault-weapon attacks by the Pakistani Taliban on two Ahmadi mosques in Lahore that left 78 worshippers dead and dozens severely wounded.
Ahmadis, she said, "are a very controversial part of the community. . . . The people willing to raise their voices in their defense are few."
In 2002, the House of Representatives issued a bipartisan resolution calling on Pakistan to repeal the second amendment of its constitution, declaring Ahmadis non-Muslim, and its blasphemy laws.
Since then, the Pakistani government has only toughened its blasphemy laws, Chaudhary said.
On Friday, the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan released a statement expressing dismay over Peer's murder and that of another Ahmadi in Karachi earlier in the week.
The commission wrote that it also was concerned by reports of denial of shelter to Ahmadis displaced by massive floods in south Punjab.
Although some Muslims are upset by the resistance to a proposed Islamic cultural center near Ground Zero, Chaudhary said he welcomed such debate as "proof of America's freedom of speech and freedom to practice religion."
In March, he said, the Philadelphia-area Ahmadi community plans to break ground for a new mosque, with dome and minaret, on West Glenwood Avenue near Temple University. The plan, he said, has encountered no hostility from the neighborhood.
Chaudhary said he was delighted when an employee in the city zoning office asked him, "When will you have your jumma prayers?" - Friday services.
"Here it is easy to take for granted," he said, "but this is the greatness of America."

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Just another butchery from Sunni Muslim terrorists.
Sunni Islam teaches as part of its doctrine killing heretics and is a terrorist doctrine which has yet to be reformed. Whilst the world demands freedom of conscience and human rights terrorist Sunni Islam demands the right to kill for religious dogma and to deny freedom of conscience and human rights.
 
See this Sunni forum where 90% vote to call Shiites and Ahmadis heretics and see violent incitements to murder quoted (all pukka bloodthirsty verses from Sunni Islams 'holy' texts:
 
 
"There will be, at the end of the time, people who are called Rawafid (rejecters). They will reject Islam and spit it out. Thus, KILL THEM for they are polytheist."

-Similiar Hadith also in Sahih Bukhari
 
Narrated 'Ali:

No doubt I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, where-ever you find them, kill them, for who-ever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."

Sahih Bukhari , Volume 9, Book 84, Number 64:
 
In the last days of this world there will appear some young foolish people who will use (in their claim) the best speech of all people (i.e. the Qur'an) and they will abandon Islam as an arrow going through the game. Their belief will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have practically no belief), so wherever you meet them, kill them, for he who kills them shall get a reward on the Day of Resurrection."

Sahih Bukhari , Volume 4, Book 56, Number 808 (from usc website)
Here a top Paksitani Sunni Muslim scholar featured on Indias top Sunni news channel "Peace TV" calls for murdering Ahmadis as per terrorist Sunni Islamic teachings:
 
 
….then the parliament decided that they (Ahmedis) are non-Muslims. But this decision is incomplete! Please note it down. I am admitting for the first time that Ahmediyyat has not been harmed at all by declaring them non-muslims. It is spreading and flourishing as ever before – deepening its root in our society. The entire western world is also patronizing them. However, even in the country they could have been rooted out ONLY if the apostates / renegades would have been KILLED. There is "capital punishment" for the apostates in Islam.
 

Kisan.



 


 

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