On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 23:00 -0800, elaine mckay wrote:
Your confusing the Taxed Enough Already party with the power behind the democrat thrown the homosexual movement whose name you use to slander the Taxed Enough Already party.
Tea baggers are extremists like any other extremists, if they get into power, some of their followers will find themselves legislated against.
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 14:00 -0500, Bruce Majors wrote:
except their analysis is based on refuted economic absurdities
they think public sector educrats with an MA or MS in education or public administration are "worth" more than private school teachers with a BA in math or science
it's a revival of the refuted 70s fallacy of "comparable worth"
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 16:58 +0000, iloveubuntulinux wrote:
they hate those of us who want to close the US borders and deport ALL foreign workers, illegals or h1b
Well, so far, I haven't actually *needed* a lathe for clocks, but I
could have used one yesterday to turn a new shaft. I repaired the
existing one with the equivalent of spitwads and bailing wire, but if it
does have problems again, it's getting a new shaft turned. Friend of
mine has the HF 7x10, which I would honestly be happy with, but I think
I can build a decently equipped unit for $100 or so.
I had figured on using some aluminum square tube for the base and stand
of the lathe. While Gingery's cross slide looks nice, I have plans for
another hobby lathe (W.R. Bell's) and I like the fact that it's not a
cast design. I haven't yet (read: don't have the other half talked into)
set up a furnace. I'd like to, but I think she's worried about me
either burning down the house, my self, or the yard...
I work on antique winders, mantle, shelf, grandfathers, nothing really
big. I haven't been doing it for a long time, but I enjoy it. I think
the dividing head would be very useful in clock work, allowing me to
make gears. Granted, given the cost of brass stock, I might be better
off buying them, if I can find them...
On 03/31/2011 03:22 PM, David Frantz wrote:
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> Nice to hear from you. I just wish all my mail rules worked!!!
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> As to lathe building it is certainly a noble effort but on the other
> hand clock makers lathes are always showing up at auctions and such.
> Just thought I'd point that out!
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> In any event if you are like many on this list that won't stop you
> from building something yourself. Besides learning to cast metal can
> be very useful in clock construction especially if you are interested
> in larger units. I do have a question in my mind as to the lathes
> design being suitable for clock making. That you will have to judge
> yourself and frankly it doesn't matter as you can modify the design to
> suit your needs. The thing is antique clocks can cover a very wide
> territory of devices from tiny desktop units to big drives for clock
> towers, so not knowing your interest I can't say if the lathe is right
> for you.
>
> In any event there are a huge number of Web sights with info on
> Gingery lathe builds. Google "Gingery Lathe". Many of these sights go
> about documenting how they deal with the weaker points associated wit
> the Gingery Lathe. In this regards I'd suggest that you want to look
> at a stronger bed design.
>
> Along this line of thinking some people consider the Gingery Mill to
> be an improved lathe. While I can't support that 100% it does have
> some features that make it useful for clock making. Specifically
> turning larger diameter parts.
>
> Dave
>
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Nope, my brother beats fenders for a living (auto-body) and he's good.
I had to wait 10 years before he was good enough (in my opinion...) to
beat and bondo my '64 Triumph Spitfire. Still trying to fix a clock up
for him...still need to paint the car :-(
On 03/31/2011 01:32 PM, Cole wrote:
> Do you have a brother named Roger who also works on antique clocks by any
> chance?
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:41 PM, bagrepulsor<mr.byte.2000@gmail.com>wrote:
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We are not a clone.
Yeah, Israel controls all the weather, too. For someone who calls themselves "conservative", you seem quite "liberal" with your demonizing of Israel in this post!!!
--- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, "true_conservative_here" <true_conservative_here@...> wrote:
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>
> << "Ed note: "to all those who scoffed at my questioning whether or not the present nuclear meltdown taking place at Japan's nuke facility might have been part of an Israeli intel operation aimed at demonstrating the power of Israel's stuxnet computer virus, Haaretz is now reporting that it was the Israeli security firm Magna that was providing security for the plant prior to the incident." >>
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> http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/03/18/israeli-security-firm-in-charge-at-japanese-nuke-facilities-prior-to-disaster/
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Ain't that the truth?
--- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, Carl Spitzer <cwsiv@...> wrote:
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> About time we voted for Israel. Usually we are stabing them in the back
> in the UN.
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> CWSIV
> >
>
So creating Jordan and all the other Arab/Moslem nations was NOT a mistake in your eyes. You only want to WHINE about the tiny country.
--- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, "zeus32117" <zeus32117@...> wrote:
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> Creating Israel was a mistake. Dealing with the current situation in the Middle East effectively enough may require most people on the planet becoming sufficiently good communicators. I think that it makes sense for most people on the planet to work together on making the world a better place. This may not happen until most people on the planet become much better communicators.
>
> --- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, "Gary" <garyrumor2@> wrote:
> >
> > US Veto's Israeli Settlement Condemnation, Baharain & Libyan Violence, Japanese Stop WhalingFebruary 18th, 2011 The Obama administration has bowed to the Israeli lobby in Washington and vetoed a UN resolution to condemn Israel for its illegal settlements. This is an absurd US policy to have at a time when the Arab world is exploding with rebellion against the old order. The USA should be joining this new order. The BBC is reporting it as "bad news."
> > What is the Obama administration doing? They have not condemned the Bahraini regime for shooting its citizens. Great Britain, the source of the rubber bullets and tear gas canister being used should take action to ban those supplies to Bahrain. The USA, the main supplier of weapons to the military of Bahrain should refuse to supply any more weapons. We should tell them simply come to terms with the protesters or the US will pull the 5th Fleet. But the US won't do that because they don't have an alternative port in the Gulf to protect the oil shipping lanes from potential enemies.
> > Libya is in flames with rumors that the protestors have taken over the airport in Benghazi and that in retaliation the government has cut off electricity to the city, that is what is being reported on the BBC TV.
> > NHK News in Japan is reporting that democratization in the Middle East is unavoidable and that
> > whatever happens, the supply of oil must be maintained. They are also reporting that the Gulf Cooperation Council meeting held in Bahrain offered support to the government of Bahrain. We shall see if democracy or oil interests win.
> > Japanese whaling fleet stopped operations a month early due to harassment by the group Sea Shepard. This is a clear victory for those who want to preserve whales from extinction.
> > ————————————————————————————————
> > From Al Jazeera
> > US vetoes UN vote on settlements
> > Washington blocks resolution condemning Israeli buildings on Palestinian land as illegal and calling for quick halt.
> > Last Modified: 18 Feb 2011 22:19 GMT
> > The United States vetoed a UN resolution Friday that would have condemned Israeli settlements as "illegal" and called for an immediate halt to all settlement building.
> > All 14 other Security Council members voted in favour of the resolution.
> > British Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant, speaking on behalf of his country, France and Germany, condemned Israeli settlements in the West Bank. "They are illegal under international law," he said.
> > He added that the European Union's three biggest nations hope that an independent state of Palestine will join the United Nations as a new member state by September 2011.
> > The Obama administration's veto is certain to anger Arab countries and Palestinian supporters around the world. An abstention would have angered the Israelis, the closest US ally in the region, as well as Democratic and Republican supporters of Israel in the American Congress.
> > Washington says it opposes settlements in principal, but claims that the UN Security Council is not the appropriate venue for resolving the decades-old Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
> > US ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice told council members that the veto "should not be misunderstood to mean we support settlement activity.
> > "While we agree with our fellow council members and indeed with the wider world about the folly and illegitimacy of continued Israeli settlement activity, we think it unwise for this council to attempt to resolve the core issues that divide Israelis and Palestinians," she said.
> > Palestinians said the veto is counterproductive to the peace process, helps Israel maintain illegal buildings.
> > "The American veto does not serve the peace process and encourages Israel to continue settlements, and to escape the
> > obligations of the peace process," said Nabil Abu Rdainah, a close aide to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
> > Earlier, the Obama administration has exerted pressure on the Palestinian Authority to drop the UN resolution in exchange for other measures.
> > Abbas has refused Washington's request to withdraw a UN Security Council resolution demanding Israel to freeze settlement expansion on occupied Palestinian land.
> > The decision was made unanimously by the Palestine Liberation Organisation's executive and the central committee of Abbas's Fatah movement on Friday, at a meeting to discuss US President Barack Obama's appeal to Abbas by telephone a day earlier.
> > "The Palestinian leadership has decided to proceed to the UN Security Council, to pressure Israel to halt settlement activities. The decision was taken despite American pressure," said Wasel Abu Yousef, a PLO executive member.
> > http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/2011218201653970232.html
> > =============================================
> > From Cristian Science Monitor
> > If Obama opposes Israeli settlement activity, why did US veto UN vote? A United Nations resolution condemning Israeli settlements, which the US vetoed Friday, put the US in a difficult position at a time when Arabs are rallying for freedom and democracy.
> > By Brad Knickerbocker, Staff writer / February 18, 2011
> > In its first United Nations veto, the Obama administration on Friday voted against a resolution condemning Israeli settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem as "illegal."
> > As one of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council, the US used its power to overrule the other 14 Security Council members, all of whom voted for the resolution.
> > The UN vote puts the United States in a difficult position – particularly at a time when freedom and democracy are being fought for in the streets of Arab nations.
> > "The US has a long history of trying to prevent the United Nations from becoming an instrument to coerce Israel, but I think in normal circumstances the US veto would be less uncomfortable," Stewart Patrick, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington, told Bloomberg News. "They have a huge priority not to change the subject of the conversation from oppression of Arabs and Muslims by their own autocratic governments."
> > Still, the vote Friday is in line with stated US policy.
> > That is, it favors direct talks between the parties without a role for the UN in establishing a lasting peace between Israel and its neighbors – especially with Palestinians. Friday's veto was the 10th time in the past 11 years that the US has voted against a UN measure considered critical of Israel. Over a longer period, there have been dozens of such votes on behalf of Israel.
> > At the same, officials continue to make clear that the Obama administration strongly opposes expansion of Israeli settlements in the occupied territories.
> > Ambassador Rice: US opposes settlementsAfter voting on the resolution, US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice emphasized that "our opposition to the resolution before this council today should … not be misunderstood to mean we support settlement activity."
> > "On the contrary, we reject in the strongest terms the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlement activity," Ambassador Rice said.
> > "The United States has been deeply committed to pursuing a comprehensive and lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians," she said. "In that context, we have been focused on taking steps that advance the goal of two states living side by side in peace and security, rather than complicating it. That includes a commitment to work in good faith with all parties to underscore our opposition to continued settlements."
> > To the extent that he can, President Obama has played a direct role in this most recent issue. For nearly an hour Thursday, he spoke with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas about the Security Council issue.
> > But Mr. Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton failed to head off the proposed vote. The US favors instead a compromise measure that includes a call for a freeze on settlements, a visit to the region by a UN Security Council delegation, and a statement by the "Mideast Quartet" (the US, the European Union, the UN, and Russia) referring to 1967 borders in reference to a Palestinian state.
> > What the UN resolution saidThe US-vetoed resolution, which had been sponsored by 130 countries, "reaffirms that the Israeli settlements established in the Palestinian Territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, are illegal and constitute a major obstacle to the achievement of a just, lasting and comprehensive peace."
> > http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Foreign-Policy/2011/0218/If-Obama-opposes-Israeli-settlement-activity-why-did-US-veto-UN-vote
> >
>
Hi Cole
Hope to see more of your new venture!
I like casting but lack of tools and knowledge.
Usually I don't cast but cut out shapes from aluminium blocks
to make machine parts.
BTW have you tried cast iron? A much tougher material to handle.
Steve-S'pore
On 4/1/11, David Patterson <odd_kins@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Have fun with making your gingery tools. But sorry to hear your giving up on
> the best part of the foundry industry so soon, Patternmaking. Like anything
> else if you don't have the right tools it becomes a chore. For the Gingery
> tools you'll need a small tablesaw, drill press and sandpaper. A 12" disc
> sander would be nice too, but not required. Once you learn how to build
> patterns, you've opened up a whole new world, in the foundry. Learn to build
> patterns then you can design and/or build anything. The foundry then become
> another tool between the idea and the finished part.
>
> Dave Patterson
> odd_kins@yahoo.com
> http://home.comcast.net/~oddkins/foundry_home.html
>
> --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Cole <coleston@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Cole <coleston@gmail.com>
> Subject: [gingery_machines] Forge? Sand? Cope/Drag? Practice? Stock? Tools?
> Tig? Everything? Check, Check, Check... Pattern Making?! Not so much.
> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 6:32 AM
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> Hello everyone, I made a few posts here over the years, and have reached the
> point where I am ready to start building the machines. I have all the books,
> I have made a bunch of fairly successful pours of aluminum, beercanium,
> bronze and brass. I made a small army of rubber duckies of the various
> metals.
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> Now I wish to start, so I got out some files and carpentry tools and scrap
> bits of pine the other night, and you know what? I really dislike precision
> carpentry.
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> So I would like to buy or borrow a set of patterns. Once I have the
> pattern's I can make a mould from them with plastic and then remake them in
> plastic and send them back to the owner. (Since I was learning how to do it
> with sand and metal, bought a few other compounds to fool around with as
> well, eventually I'd like to do lost wax.)
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> I'm located in Toronto, Canada.
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> I'd like the patterns for the lathe, preferably with the 4 jaw chuck, as
> well as the patterns for the mill. I have paypal or can do email money
> transfers or if you're in southern ontario I'll just show up with cash or
> beer or whatever.
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> Thanks so much for reading guys, you guys are the best.
> Sincerely
> -Cole Pluzak
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