I agree,,,
** An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind Gandhi **
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From: "Gary" <garyrumor2@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:44 AM
Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Immigration, Hospital Closings,
and Right Wing Propaganda
If you read my post that is exactly my point. I was trying to find out where
a teacher would get the notion that people without papers were responsible
for this. I traced it back to the right wing site that I note below.
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<springcreek@...> wrote:
>
> Pardon me,, but one of the main cause of bankrupties in the us besides
> home
> mortage is unability for folks to paid their medical bills,, and that is
> american citizens,, there are NO stats that states the illegals are
> causing
> this problem,, because it is illegal for any hospital to ask if a person
> citizenship,, the teacher does not know what he is talking about,
> ** An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind Gandhi **
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> From: "Gary" <garyrumor2@...>
> To: <Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 3:02 AM
> Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Immigration, Hospital Closings,
> and
> Right Wing Propaganda
>
>
> Immigration, Hospital Closings In California, & Right Wing Propaganda
> September 7th, 2011
> I have a teacher, my Geography teacher who seems to be anti-immigrant in
> the
> message she is presenting to the class regarding undocumented immigrants
> in
> the USA. She states that 90 hospitals in California went out of business
> because of unpaid bills, implying that those bills were the responsibility
> of immigrants who come the United States, can¡¯t find jobs and become
> criminals and use hospitals for free and don¡¯t pay their bills. I became
> irate and stated to the class that Pew Hispanic Center reports that
> immigrants add value to the society and are not a detriment overall. I
> didn¡¯t have any reports in front of me, but she disagreed and said that
> the
> statistics show them to be a drain on society. I just said, ¡°bull shit¡±
> and was about to walk out of the class when she called a break. I needed
> to
> take a dump anyway. Afterwards I returned to the class and took the test
> we
> were supposed to take. I decided to write a response to her statistics
> with
> numbers of my own. I really don¡¯t like it when someone gets me to lose my
> cool and I really don¡¯t like not having the statistics available to
> respond
> intelligently.
>
> From PR Watch:
>
> ¡°Profit Motive Underlies Outbreak of Immigration Bills
>
> Submitted by Brendan Fischer on August 24, 2011 - 8:00am
>
> July 29 marked the one-year anniversary of Arizona¡¯s controversial
> immigration law, a year that has seen similar anti-immigrant bills emerge
> across the country. Thanks to the release of over 800 pieces of ¡°model
> legislation¡± by the Center for Media and Democracy, we can now pinpoint
> the
> source of the outbreak to the American Legislative Exchange Council
> (ALEC),
> a bill factory for legislation that benefits the bottom line of its
> corporate members. While it has been reported that more immigrants behind
> bars means more income for ALEC member Corrections Corporation of America
> (CCA), less discussed has been how immigrant detention benefits commercial
> bail-bond agencies, an industry represented in ALEC through the American
> Bail Coalition.¡±
>
> http://www.prwatch.org/node/10980
>
> From Terraviva
>
> ¡°U.S.: Tea Party, Fox News Viewers Outliers on Immigration, Islam
> By Jim Lobe*
>
> WASHINGTON, Sep 6, 2011 (IPS) - While 10 years after the 9/11 Al- Qaeda
> attacks, most U.S. citizens say they respect diversity and the freedom of
> religion, they don¡¯t always apply those principles to Islam and
> immigrants,
> according to a survey released here Tuesday by two major think tanks.
>
> The survey, entitled ¡°What It Means to be American: Attitudes in an
> Increasingly Diverse America Ten Years after 9/11¡å, found that viewers of
> Rupert Murdoch¡¯s Fox News were significantly less tolerant and more
> distrustful of Muslims than the general public.
>
> It also found that self-described sympathizers of the mainly Republican
> ¡°Tea Party¡± were significantly more hostile to immigrants and their
> children, as well as any effort to legalize their status in the United
> States.
>
> And both groups were much more likely to believe discrimination against
> whites in U.S. society has become as big a problem as discrimination
> against
> blacks and other minorities, according to the survey, which was released
> by
> the Brookings Institution and the Public Religion Research Institute
> (PRII)..¡±
>
> http://ipsnews.net/newsTVE.asp?idnews=105007
>
> From University of California Newsroom
>
> ¡°Financial Problems Triggered Most Recent Hospital Closures
>
> Financial problems were the single most common reason for the closure of
> 23
> California hospitals between 1995 and 2000, according to a report by the
> recently established Nicholas C. Petris Center on Health Care Markets and
> Consumer Welfare at the University of California, Berkeley.
>
> The new report, ¡°California¡¯s Closed Hospitals, 1995-2000,¡±
> commissioned
> by the California attorney general, is the first close look at hospital
> closures statewide. The study focuses on reasons for the hospital
> closures,
> distribution of the closed facilities and the characteristics of the
> closed
> hospitals.
>
> The hospital industry - citing seismic retrofit requirements, managed care
> and shrinking reimbursements - has predicted that up to 150 of the
> state¡¯s
> hospitals will close in the next few years. The Petris Center report is
> designed to provide some context to evaluate those claims.
>
> * The largest proportion of hospitals that closed, 11, or 48 percent, were
> for-profit enterprises.
>
> * Each of the closed hospitals experienced declining reimbursements,
> income
> per bed and utilization in the year prior to closure. As a group, they
> performed worse financially than the state¡¯s operating general acute care
> hospitals did in 1999.
>
> http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/3211
>
> From NurseWeek
>
> ¡°Closing Time
> California leads nation in hospital closures
>
> By John Leighty
> May 17, 1999
>
> In the current era of intense competition and managed care, hospitals are
> finding it increasingly difficult to make ends meet. While some hospitals
> have reduced staff and services to cut costs, others have been forced to
> close.
>
> The California Healthcare Association reports an average of three closings
> a
> year over the past decade, most of them involving smaller, low-capacity
> hospitals squeezed by intense competition under managed care. Dozens of
> other hospitals have merged or changed ownership, moves that often result
> in
> some department closings as services are consolidated.¡±
>
> http://www.nurseweek.com/features/99-5/hospital.html
>
> This article appears in the October 1, 2004 issue of Executive
> Intelligence
> Review. I don¡¯t normally reproduce Lyndon Larouche material but this
> analysis was actually pretty good.
>
> ¡°California¡¯s Hospitals Closing,
> More Cuts Ahead
> by Linda Everett
>
> The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors announced on Sept. 13 that Los
> Angeles County will lose yet another of its trauma centers¡ªthe Martin
> Luther King-Charles Drew Center which serves the very, very poor
> population
> of Watts. The King-Drew Hospital and Trauma Center was built after the
> 1965
> Watts riots to serve the inner city population. Now, the Trauma Center is
> to
> close within 90 days¡ªand it is not yet known if the Hospital itself will
> survive its multitude of financial crises. The shutting of the trauma
> center
> is emblematic of the crisis devastating California¡¯s entire healthcare
> infrastructure.
> California displays in extreme form the physical destruction of healthcare
> capability which has resulted, over 25 years, from the replacement of the
> national hospital-sufficiency strategy of the 1946 Hill-Burton Law, with
> the
> ¡°free market-driven¡± healthcare of the 1973 HMO law passed under Nixon,
> with its totally illusory ¡°cost-containment¡± veneer. The percentage of
> California¡¯s population ¡°covered¡± by managed care or health maintenance
> organizations (HMOs) is double that of the nation as a whole. Therefore,
> many more hospitals and physicians in California, than in other states,
> are
> reimbursed at below their own costs for care they provide to patients. Far
> more California hospitals are operating in the red, and closing.¡±
>
> http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3138cal_hosp_cuts.html
>
> So it seems to me that the reason why hospitals are closing in California
> has more to do with the macro economic reasons of competition, lower
> reimbursements from States and Federal Government. Most of the hospitals
> closing are small for profit institutions that simply cannot run
> efficiently
> in a managed care environment. None of the reports or articles above
> mention
> illegal aliens as being a problem. Most of these articles are older, from
> 1999 to 2004. But I wondered where the teacher got the idea that illegal
> aliens were the cause of hospital closings.
>
> I hunted and found an article that seems to be the source for the people
> at
> FAIR and the Federal Observer. The author is a lawyer not a medical
> professional. As I suspected the Journal is published by a right wing
> organization among medical professionals and has been criticized by the
> more
> legitimate Physicians organizations.
>
> From Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons
>
> ¡°Illegal Aliens and American Medicine
> Madeleine Pelner Cosman, Ph.D., Esq.
>
> Illegal aliens’ stealthy assaults on medicine now must rouse
> Americans
> to alert and alarm. Even President Bush describes illegal aliens only as
> they are seen: strong physical laborers who work hard in undesirable jobs
> with low wages, who care for their families, and who pursue the American
> dream. What is unseen is their free medical care that has degraded and
> closed some of Americas finest emergency medical facilities, and caused
> hospital bankruptcies: 84 California hospitals are closing their doors.
> “Anchor babies” born to illegal aliens instantly qualify as
> citizens for welfare benefits and have caused enormous rises in Medicaid
> costs and stipends under Supplemental Security Income and Disability
> Income.¡±
>
> http://www.jpands.org/vol10no1/cosman.pdf
>
> For instance this Fair Article cites Cosman¡¯s article as one of its
> sources.
>
> ¡°Illegal Immigration and Public Health
>
> The impact of immigration on our public health is often overlooked.¡±
>
> http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=16742&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1007
>
> This article in the Federal Observer is by Ms Cosman herself. It is as
> hyperbolic as the original article.
>
> ¡°Cosman: Illegal Aliens and Emtala
> By Dr. Madeline Cosman, Ph.D., ESQ
>
> The influx of Illegal Aliens has devastating, hidden medical
> consequences..
> We judge reality primarily by what we see.¡±
>
> http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=9572
>
> From Wikipedia article about the Association of American Physicians and
> Surgeons, publisher of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons:
>
> ¡°In 1966, the New York Times described AAPS as an ¡°ultra-right-wing¡
> political-economic rather than a medical group,¡± and noted that some of
> its
> leaders were members of the John Birch Society.¡±
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons
>
> ¡°A Global Warming Counterfeit -Steven Dutch, Natural and Applied
> Sciences,
> University of Wisconsin - Green Bay
>
> And just what is the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons?
>
> A scan of the journal¡¯s contents shows very little real science. It may
> well be that the two papers on climate change are the most scientific
> papers
> the journal has ever published. There are a lot of articles critical of
> medical peer review and government regulation. And there are a host of
> tangential articles and book reviews favorable to far right and
> libertarian
> ideology.¡±
>
> http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/GlobWarm0.HTM
>
> From Science Blogs - Respectful Insolence
>
> ¡°The group to which I refer is the Association of American Physicians and
> Surgeons (AAPS), and its journal is the Journal of American Physicians and
> Surgeons (abbreviated JPANDS, because ¡°JAPS¡± has some rather obvious
> negative connotations). It is not an exaggeration to say that the AAPS,
> through its journal JPANDS, is waging a war on science- and evidence-based
> medicine in the name of its politics.¡±
>
> http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/02/the_journal_of_american
> _physicians_and_s.php
>
> I could go on, but the evidence is pretty clear that the Journal of
> American
> Physicians and Surgeons is a right wing front and it prints articles that
> are pretty much over the edge academically speaking. What I still don¡¯t
> understand is why my teacher would be using such information as a source?
> Was she in a hurry or has her childhood in Communist Bulgaria colored her
> perception of the world. Certainly her constant harping on Communist
> bureaucrats robbing the people of their savings accounts to finance their
> monopolies in the newly capitalist Eastern Europe makes me wonder.
> It is true that unpaid bills are a drain on hospitals but my experience
> with
> them is that they are quite good at making up their losses in one area by
> the charges for normal services to the vast majority of their patients who
> are insured and pay.
> This is from Kaiser Health News and is a pretty decent factual report. As
> they say, it is hard to determine how many of the non-paying patients are
> illegal because it is illegal to ask.
>
> http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2009/October/23/illegal-immigrants-health-explainer.aspx
>
> In any case blaming illegal aliens for the problems of hospitals, or crime
> or any of the other social problems that existed before the influx of
> Latin
> Americans began in the 1980¡¯s to become a significant factor in the
> complex
> problems of this country since Reagan reoriented a huge chunk of spending
> away from social services and to defense. Ever since there has been a
> deliberate attempt to starve services, in the name of efficiency or
> privatization. When people feel the crunch instead of blaming the policy
> makers, they blame the immigrants and the poor who have the least control
> over their lives.
>
>
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