Re: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and Counterbore

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Tuesday, May 31, 2011

 

Hi Rick

Yes! A bit on the high end though...gradually one can achieve it.
I still remember once I asked a trainer to show me how to hand grind
the twist drill, he refused...that was 30 years ago in my school days.

I made my own tool and cutter jig not only able to sharpen end mills
and able to sharpen twist drills the Tormek method, getting the 4
facet faces. After tested it, it's very wear resistance than normal
conical grinding.

Steve-S'pore ;)

On 6/1/11, RG Sparber <rgsparber@aol.com> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> Interesting modification to a drill but IMHO, beyond what a person new to
> the hobby can handle. However, it would make for an interesting new article
> :-))
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Wan
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:25 PM
> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and
> Counterbore
>
> Hi guys!
>
> Nice info you got there...perhaps Ron is correct not to use mill
> cutters on the spindle chuck. My approach is different, I learnt this
> trick from my training school long ago. I would grind my drill bit
> almost flat. With a 0.5mm normal drill bits slightly bigger, I drill a
> shallow step as a guide and use this flat drill to counterbore and
> c'sink or debur with a hand-drill.
>
> If the c'sunk hole is deep, I would use the ratchet brace like the pdf file.
>
> Steve-S'pore
>
>
>

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RE: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and Counterbore

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Steve,

Interesting modification to a drill but IMHO, beyond what a person new to
the hobby can handle. However, it would make for an interesting new article
:-))

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Wan
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:25 PM
To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and
Counterbore

Hi guys!

Nice info you got there...perhaps Ron is correct not to use mill
cutters on the spindle chuck. My approach is different, I learnt this
trick from my training school long ago. I would grind my drill bit
almost flat. With a 0.5mm normal drill bits slightly bigger, I drill a
shallow step as a guide and use this flat drill to counterbore and
c'sink or debur with a hand-drill.

If the c'sunk hole is deep, I would use the ratchet brace like the pdf file.

Steve-S'pore

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RE: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and Counterbore

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Ron,

I welcome your <soapbox> comment and have included it in the article.

Thanks!

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:29 PM
To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and
Counterbore

On 5/31/2011 7:24 PM, RG Sparber wrote:
>
> This is another article in my series for people new to our hobby. It deals
> with drilling, tapping, and counterboring a hole for a Socket Head Cap
> Screw
> using the technique called match drilling.
>
> If you are interested, please see
>
> http://rick.sparber.org/dtc.pdf
>
> Comments and questions are welcome. All of us are smarter than any one of
> us.
>
> Rick.
>
Nicely done. One small criticism.

<soapbox>
End mills should not be held in drill chucks. I know, everyone does it.
But your articles are aimed at newbies.

End mills are as hard or harder than the drill chuck jaws. This can and
does do damage, especially if it slips.

The right tool for this operation/in this machine/ is a piloted
counterbore. They have the advantage of a ofter shaft and a removable
cutter. This is handy for reverse counterbores where the tool is pulled
into the work from the opposite side.

On the other hand, if the machine you were using was a mill, and it had
the right holder for the endmill, your operations would be appropriate.
</soapbox>

Now I'll quit being anal.

--

Ron Thompson
On the Beautiful Florida Space Coast, right beside the Kennedy Space Center,
USA

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RE: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and Counterbore

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Nelson,

I agree. I wasn't thrilled with the fit and finish. There was chatter in the bottom of the hole but at least it can't be seen with the screw in place.

Rick

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From: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com [mailto:gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nelson Collar
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:35 PM
To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and Counterbore

Rick
Real nice article, the only thing that caught my eye was the counter bore. Room for improvement.
Cheers
Nelson Collar

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Re: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and Counterbore

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Hi guys!

Nice info you got there...perhaps Ron is correct not to use mill
cutters on the spindle chuck. My approach is different, I learnt this
trick from my training school long ago. I would grind my drill bit
almost flat. With a 0.5mm normal drill bits slightly bigger, I drill a
shallow step as a guide and use this flat drill to counterbore and
c'sink or debur with a hand-drill.

If the c'sunk hole is deep, I would use the ratchet brace like the pdf file.

Steve-S'pore

On 6/1/11, Ron Thompson <ron@ourcadguy.com> wrote:
> On 5/31/2011 7:24 PM, RG Sparber wrote:
>>
>> This is another article in my series for people new to our hobby. It deals
>> with drilling, tapping, and counterboring a hole for a Socket Head Cap
>> Screw
>> using the technique called match drilling.
>>
>> If you are interested, please see
>>
>> http://rick.sparber.org/dtc.pdf
>>
>> Comments and questions are welcome. All of us are smarter than any one of
>> us.
>>
>> Rick.
>>
> Nicely done. One small criticism.
>
> <soapbox>
> End mills should not be held in drill chucks. I know, everyone does it.
> But your articles are aimed at newbies.
>
> End mills are as hard or harder than the drill chuck jaws. This can and
> does do damage, especially if it slips.
>
> The right tool for this operation/in this machine/ is a piloted
> counterbore. They have the advantage of a ofter shaft and a removable
> cutter. This is handy for reverse counterbores where the tool is pulled
> into the work from the opposite side.
>
> On the other hand, if the machine you were using was a mill, and it had
> the right holder for the endmill, your operations would be appropriate.
> </soapbox>
>
> Now I'll quit being anal.
>
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>
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> On the Beautiful Florida Space Coast, right beside the Kennedy Space Center,
> USA
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[Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] FOUND IN BIN LADEN"S COMPUTER FILES

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[Fun_with_Bead-Patterns] Weave type and translation

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I found this wonderful free pattern for beaded candles: http://animaux-passions.over-blog.com/categorie-11887687.html but it's in French, and I'm not 100% sure what the weave is. It looks a bit like RAW, but I'm sure it's not. I've seen this weave before, but not sure what it's called.

Does anyone know how to do it? Can anyone translate it?

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Re: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and Counterbore

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On 5/31/2011 7:24 PM, RG Sparber wrote:
>
> This is another article in my series for people new to our hobby. It deals
> with drilling, tapping, and counterboring a hole for a Socket Head Cap
> Screw
> using the technique called match drilling.
>
> If you are interested, please see
>
> http://rick.sparber.org/dtc.pdf
>
> Comments and questions are welcome. All of us are smarter than any one of
> us.
>
> Rick.
>
Nicely done. One small criticism.

<soapbox>
End mills should not be held in drill chucks. I know, everyone does it.
But your articles are aimed at newbies.

End mills are as hard or harder than the drill chuck jaws. This can and
does do damage, especially if it slips.

The right tool for this operation/in this machine/ is a piloted
counterbore. They have the advantage of a ofter shaft and a removable
cutter. This is handy for reverse counterbores where the tool is pulled
into the work from the opposite side.

On the other hand, if the machine you were using was a mill, and it had
the right holder for the endmill, your operations would be appropriate.
</soapbox>

Now I'll quit being anal.

--

Ron Thompson
On the Beautiful Florida Space Coast, right beside the Kennedy Space Center, USA

There are two kinds of posts on newsgroups.
1. This is what I have done...
2. This is what I think...
Be aware of the difference!

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Re: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and Counterbore

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I have done this type of installing multiple screws, but with out the added
steps you use. Thanks for the schooling!

Bob

On Tue, 31 May 2011 16:24:26 -0700
"RG Sparber" <rgsparber@aol.com> wrote:
> This is another article in my series for people new to our hobby. It deals
> with drilling, tapping, and counterboring a hole for a Socket Head Cap Screw
> using the technique called match drilling.
>
>
>
> If you are interested, please see
>
>
>
> http://rick.sparber.org/dtc.pdf
>
>
>
> Comments and questions are welcome. All of us are smarter than any one of
> us.
>
>
>
> Rick.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and Counterbore

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Rick
Real nice article, the only thing that caught my eye was the counter bore. Room for improvement.
Cheers
Nelson Collar

--- On Tue, 5/31/11, RG Sparber <rgsparber@aol.com> wrote:

From: RG Sparber <rgsparber@aol.com>
Subject: [gingery_machines] new article available: Drill, Tap, and Counterbore
To: valleymetal@yahoogroups.com, gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com, mill_drill@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2011, 11:24 PM

 

This is another article in my series for people new to our hobby. It deals
with drilling, tapping, and counterboring a hole for a Socket Head Cap Screw
using the technique called match drilling.

If you are interested, please see

http://rick.sparber.org/dtc.pdf

Comments and questions are welcome. All of us are smarter than any one of
us.

Rick.

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[Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Palestinians Tear Up Another Agreement, the World Yawns/other news

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    The economic, social, and political situation in Egypt is getting worse. Due to the security situation, civilians are buying weapons and hiring militias to protect themselves. When the demonstrators held a second Friday of Anger across Egypt on May 27 in order to pressure the Military Council to enact reforms, the Muslim Brotherhood announced that it would not take part. But to their great surprise, the young guard of their movement decided to participate, against the will of the supreme leader, in the first sign of a rift within the Muslim Brotherhood.
        It seems like the new, revolutionary Egypt will experience many years of confrontations before a new, democratic reg ime will evolve, based on freedom of speech, human rights, liberation of women, and religious tolerance towards the Copts. The writer, a Fellow of the Jerusalem Center, served as Israel's Ambassador to Egypt and Sweden. (Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs)
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Observations:
The Third Man - Elliott Abrams (Weekly Standard)
  • Missing from the Bibi vs. Barack drama in Washington was the man who really torpedoed the peace process, Mahmoud Abbas. Abbas is 76 and will retire from politics next year, having announced that he will not seek reelection. A man without charisma or great political courage, he lost first the 2006 elections and then control of Gaza to Hamas.
  • Abbas was never a serious candidate to make the difficult compromises that a peace deal with Israel would require and then defend himself against charges of treason and betrayal. To the generous peace offer made by Ehud Olmert in 2008, Abbas responded with silence.
  • Obama's mistreatment of the visiting Netanyahu can only have deepened the latter's belief that Obama was irretrievably hostile. Obama gave a major Middle East speech the day before Netanyahu arrived. The message was clear: I have no interest in what you are saying and will make my views plain even before we exchange one word.
  • Worse yet was the lack of any advance notice. The Israelis had been told days before that the Obama speech would cover the Arab Spring and say little about them, and were given only a couple of hours' notice that, on the contrary, the president would make a significant policy statement that contradicted Israeli views. They felt - and they were - blindsided.
  • In the Clinton and Bush administrations such major policy statements were preceded by weeks of consultations, and when a president breaks that pattern it is a deliberate and powerful message. This is the explanation for the brief tutorial in Israeli security concerns that Netanyahu held Friday in the Oval Office: The gloves were off, but it was Obama who took them off first.

    The writer, senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations, was a deputy national security adviser in the George W. Bush administration.
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1. Jerusalem's Reunification: Back in Time to 1967 by Hillel Fendel Jerusalem: Back in Time to '67

This Tuesday night and Wednesday will be a special day for lovers of Jerusalem, which celebrates the 44th anniversary of its Six Day War reunification. 

Among the central events planned for this Jerusalem Day are traditional festivities at Yeshivat Merkaz HaRav Kook, including all-night Torah lectures, singing, dancing to music of the famed clarinetist Musa Berlin, and each year since the liberation of the city, a march of hundreds to the Western Wall starting at 1 a.m.  Prime MInister Benyamin Netanyahu, many Knesset Members and rabbis from all over Israel come to join the yeshiva's celebration. 

Festive prayers take place in central Jerusalem synagogues such as Heichal Shlomo and others.  A special program will take place at Yeshivat Beit Orot on Mt. Scopus, overlooking the Temple Mount, which will be followed by music, dancing, a dinner, and an inspiring presentation by noted historian Dr. Eyal Davidson. 

The central event in the capital on Wednesday will be the traditional Rikudgalim - Flag Dance March - towards the Old City.  Though it has long been concentrated on Jaffa Rd., as well as on other streets – with separate routes for girls and boys – this year's march will be adapted to meet the needs of the new light-rail transportation system. Many of the marchers will enter the Old City through Damascus Gate, while others will circle around the south, adjacent to Mt.of Olives, and enter through Dung Gate. Various tours of different parts of the city are sponsored by the municipality and other organizations all through the day.

The day commemorates the miraculous liberation of the Old City of Jerusalem on the 28th of Iyar, 5727 (June 7, 1967), just days after several Arab armies threatened to wipe the State of Israel off the map.  Israel took the initiative with a surprise, defensive attack, wiping out the Egyptian Air Force in one day, and taking over Jerusalem, Gaza, Judea, Samaria, the Sinai and the Golan Heights shortly thereafter. Weeks of national trepidation and tension, including the preparing of thousands of body-bags in Jerusalem and elsewhere, suddenly gave way to celebration and thanksgiving. 

It has been noted many times that in the days prior to the war, Israel used its informal ties with Jordan's King Hussein to ask him repeatedly to hold its fire and forces and allow Israel to concentrate only on its Egyptian and Syrian fronts. Had Hussein listened, the course of history would have been very different, as Israel would not have liberated Jerusalem, Judea or Samaria – at least not then. 

The war marked Israel's return to the Old City of Jerusalem for the first time since having been ignominiously driven out in 1948, and for the first time in 1,899 years as sovereign rulers.

In fact, though most Jews were thrilled in 1948 when the renewed State of Israel was established, for others the joy was greatly tempered by the lack of inclusion in its borders of the holy sites of Jerusalem– and particularly the Temple Mount. 

The continued longing for Jerusalem and other Biblical areas was expressed by Rabbi Tzvi Yehuda Kook, the head of Yeshivat Merkaz HaRav.  Speaking to his students on Independence Day of 1967, just weeks before the Six Day War, he appeared to be gripped by prophecy when he cried out, "Where is our Hevron? Have we forgotten it? And where is our Shechem (Nablus)?  Have we forgotten it? And where is our Jericho? Have we forgotten it?! ... And where is all the rest of the Land of Israel?  Where are all the pieces of G-d's Land?  Do we have the right to give up even one millimeter?  Heaven forbid!"  

One of his students, Rabbi Chanan Porat, who was later to be a leader in the movement to settle all of the Land of Israel, said that the rabbi's emotion was so extreme that it left an impression on him forever: "He roared and cried out from the depths of his heart; we saw that he was truly like one crying over someone who had just died, as if he was torn in pieces.  We felt as if he was speaking in the name of the Landof Israel, and that its tearing-asunder was tearing his own flesh as well." 

Just days after Rabbi Kook's emotional cry, Egypt placed a blockade around the Straits of Tiran leading into Israel, and preparations for war began. Within three weeks, Hevron, Jericho, Shechem and Jerusalem were once again in Jewish hands. Rabbi Kook and his friend the Nazir, Rabbi David Cohen, were given a special military escort to the Western Wall within hours of its liberation. 

The continued longing for Jerusalem in the 19 years between '48 and '67 was expressed on another level by Naomi Shemer, in her famous song "Jerusalem of Gold." The original lyrics read, "The city that sits solitary, and in its midst - a wall... How the cisterns have dried, the market-place is empty, and no one frequents the Temple Mount, in the OldCity... Jerusalem of gold, and of bronze, and of light, Behold I am a violin for all your songs..." 

Just a few months later, she was able to add these lyrics as the final stanza: "We have returned to the cisterns, To the market and to the market-place, A ram's horn (shofar) is heard on the Temple Mount, In the OldCity."  The song Jerusalem of Gold quickly became Israel's unofficial national anthem, sung in joy at every opportunity.
 

2. NY Israel Day Concert/Rally 'For the Sake of Jerusalem' by David Ben Yacov Israel Day Central Park Concert

"Let your voice be heard" is the motto of the organizers of the upcoming Israel Day Concert/ Rally in New York City. 

More than 20,000 people are expected for the 18th (Chai) Annual Israel Day Concert in Central Park, a tribute to Carl Freyer and a Dr. Manfred Lehmann Memorial event,  which will be held at Central Park's Summer Stage on Sunday, June 5 in honor of the 44th anniversary of the miracle of the Six-Day War and the re-unification of Jerusalem. (Pictures of Israel Day rallies courtesy of Barry Brown studios.) 

The free concert will be held  from 2:30-7:30 p.m., rain or shine, after the annual Salute to Israel Parade. 

Dr. Joseph Frager, long-time Organizer, and Dr. Paul and Drora Brody, Chairpersons, have announced the concert's themes: Jerusalem United Forever -- never to be divided again, no further concessions of any part of the Land of Israel, standing up to the mullahs of Iran, and calling for the release of Gilad Shalit and for the release of Jonathan Pollard.

The concert, which effectively is the largest rally of its kind in North America, and possibly in the world, is sponsored by the Israel  Concert-In-The-Park Committee, associated with Young Israel Chovevei Zion and the National Council of Young Israel, and it is co-organized by Aron Hirtz. 

It pays special tribute this year to Carl Freyer z'l, who toegther with his wife Sylvia founded the concert in response to a call by Rabbi Shlomo Riskin, Chief Rabbi of Efrat, to mount some form of protest to the ill-conceived 1993 Oslo accords. 

Freyer, who passed away en route to Israel before Succot, was a leader of the nationalist camp and a supporter of numerous causes for many years, impacting many aspects of Jewish life in America and Israel. He and his wife were founders of Arutz Sheva and the National Jewish Outreach Program (NJOP). 

The Concert/Rally also salutes noted the late Jewish activist and philanthropist Dr. Manfred R. Lehmann, who was the event's first Chairman, as well as the late Rose and Reuben Mattus, of Haagen-Dazs fame. 

The guest speaker will be MK Danny Danon, Deputy Speaker of the Knesset and chairman of World Likud. Special appearances will be made by leading political and religious leaders and Jewish activists focusing on the event's all-important themes. 

There will be representatives of the World Committee for the Land of Israel, Ateret Cohanim/Jerusalem Chai(JRP), the Hebron Fund and  the One Israel Fund. 

Rabbi David Nesenoff, Publisher/Editor of The Jewish Star, who exposed the anti-Semitic statements of White House correspondent Helen Thomas, will focus his remarks on the plight of Jonathan Pollard. 

Special performers include Avraham Fried, Shalsheles with Shalsheles Jr., Avi Peretz and Ouri Bitton, Elram and Shlomi, of Yemenite background direct from Israel, Jerry Markovitz, Izzy Kieffer with Heshy R. and the debut of Yitzy Bald's New York Boys Choir. 

Musical accompaniment will be provided by the Shloime Dachs Orchestra & Singers. Light Intonation, a new group comprised of Yeshiva boys, will be introduced. 

Haitian George, whose dancing career was salvaged  by an IDF rescue team in Haiti and at Tel HaShomer Medical Center, will remind us just what Israel is capable of  when he once-again dances on the Summer Stage.  

Strictly kosher food and drinks will be available Early arrival is advised as there will be added security checks. Enter at 5th Ave. & 72nd St. For more information, contact 917-650-5623. 


3. Begin Breaks Likud Ranks on INR Radio; Rejects PA State by Gavriel Queenann Begin Breaks Likud Ranks

Minister without portfolio Benny Begin (Likud), in an Israel National News Radio interview on Monday, rejected the creation of an Arab state west of the Jordan River saying the right of the Jewish people to their ancestral homeland was 'obvious' and that such a state would become a 'haven of impunity' for terror. Begin's remarks mark a stark departure from the "two states for two people's" vision endorsed by Israel's current Likud-run government

"I think any second state of any nature, another sovereignty west of the Jordan River, especially when it comprises the PLO or Hamas, would negate or contradict two basic rights of the Jewish people and the citizens of Israel," Begin told Israel National News Radio's Josh Hasten. during an interview on the Israel Hasbara Hour

"One is the right of the Jewish people to our homeland, and our right to our homeland does not stop exactly east of the 1949 armistice demarcation lines, also known as the 'Green Line.' It has no historic significance whatsoever. It just marks a balance of military power back then, in 1948 or 1949, between [Israel's] local Arab neighbors and the newborn state of Israel in their attempt to smother the baby state in its cradle. Our right to our land – Including of course to the cradle of our history in Judea and Samaria – is obvious," Begin said. 

"There is also the question of national security, and we have had some experience in the the last twenty years under the banner 'territory for peace'... the actual events have been territory for terror. Every piece of land, every hectare, every acre, that was consigned to the PLO reign, became a haven of impunity for terrorism. And we should anticipate that once we transfer parts of our homeland to the PLO it will be, actually, an indirect transfer of land through the PLO to Hamas, and to Iran," Begin said. 

Recent Events Prove Arab's True Intent 

Begin cited the recent Fatah-Hamas "unity treaty" and "Naqba" unrest throughout Israel on May 15, which saw the infiltration of Northern Israel by over 100 Syrian radicals, along with riots throughout Judea and Samaria, as proof the Arab's have no intention of making peace with the Jewish state. 

"I think in the last month people can see for themselves [what their intentions are] through the following events: the new agreement between the PLO and Hamas, who nobody doubts is openly bent on the destruction of the state of Israel, and then the May 15 marches on our borders marking the "devastation" or "calamity," that they claim was inflicted upon them by the very establishment of the state of Israel on May 15, 1948," Begin explained. 

"Their real aim is not a a two state solution, but a two-stage solution. In the sense that they push us to the pre-1967, actually 1949 lines, and then push more through terrorism and other forms of political pressure in order to dwarf us and to try to erase the state of Israel, the Jewish state," Begin said. 

"They did not mark the date in June," Begin said referring to the 1967 Six Day War, sometimes called the 'June War,' in which Israel liberated its eternal capitol and ancestral heartland. "After all, the 'occupation' so to speak of Judea and Samaria and Gaza started in June 1967. No, they mark the original May 15 date of the very birth of the Jewish state." 

Israel's Hasbara Advantage 

Begin conceded Israel starts at a public relations disadvantage due to the vastly greater sums the Arab world pours into its anti-Israel media efforts, but said Israel has a big advantage in its 'hasbara [public relations, ed.] war' because it doesn't have to "sell lies." 

"It used to be Hasbara was translated 'propaganda,'" Begin explained. "Now they call it 'public diplomacy,' which is a little nicer. But years ago it was considered by Israelis to be 'propaganda' [and therefore beneath them, ed.] One of the nice things about our 'propaganda' is that we don't have to sell lies. We can suffice ourselves with telling people things as they are. We have to tell them the truth. And we have to ask them to judge. Because once they know the facts they will be able use moral judgment." 

"[There was] a very important article written by Mahmoud Abbas, Abu Mazen, written on May 16 as an op-ed article in the New York Times... [readers] will read it and see easily for themselves what kind of narrative, or actually what kind of lies, the PLO tries to sell intelligent people in America and elsewhere. Its untenable, its unacceptable, and it takes things to such an extreme in such a manner that we can easily prove the narrative is totally false," Begin said. 

"Such articles will only help us," Begin said optimistically. "I don't know if this would be efficient immediately It takes time, but people of good will, if they will stand up and work for truth – for morality – I think it would be a great help to the cause of real justice in our part of the world." 

The entire interview can be downloaded here.
 

4. Moskowitz Zionism Prizes Awarded by Elad Benari Moskowitz Zionism Prizes Awarded

Rabbi Yehoshua Fass, co-founder of the Nefesh B'Nefesh English speakers' aliyah movement, Former MK Rabbi Chanan Porat, who helped re-establish the community of Kfar Etzion after the 1967 Six Day War following his service as a paratrooper, and recently retired director of the Mossad, (Israel's international spy agency) Meir Dagan were the recipients of the 2011 Moskowitz Prize for Zionism. 

The Prizes were awarded in ceremonies on Monday evening at Jerusalem's City of David (Ir David), located across the road from the Western Wall (Kotel). 

Cherna Moskowitz, who founded the prize along with her husband Dr. Irving Moskowitz, was the first speaker of the evening. 

"We see reversals in all Arab countries," she said. "No one can predict what will happen there. We have seen the rise of terrorism since the Oslo agreements and the education of incitement by Mahmoud Abbas. All this causes great damage to Israeli and American values ​​and to the stability in the Middle East. At such a time of uncertainty, the last thing we need to do is to establish another Arab country in any way. All this only emphasizes the necessity of preserving Judea and Samaria in order to allow the Jewish state to survive." 

In the speech he gave after receiving the award, Dagan referred to the location of the ceremony, saying: "This place is not political. The City of David has a deep connection to Jewish history." 

Dagan thanked the members of the Israeli intelligence community for their part in the award. 

"If I got this far, it would be appropriate for me to be the mouth of the intelligence people who work day and night. A group of men and women, young and old, who give all their energies and abilities for the State of Israel. Some of them work under difficult risks, they are not recognized, and you read about their successes in classified papers. On the other hand, their failures are smeared in newspapers and on television screens. They are not recognized, and even neighbors and relatives are unaware of their work." 

Dagan added, "Their real greatness is that they know how to learn from their failures." 

In his acceptance speech, Rabbi Fass noted that he does not stand  there on behalf of himself, and that Nefesh B'Nefesh is an operation behind which are many other individuals. He made particular mention of his friend Tony Gelbart, who founded the organization with him but could not receive the award because he does yet not carry an Israeli identity card. Rabbi Fass stressed that the organization is working on this to happen soon. 

Rabbi Porat, who received his award after Rabbi Fass, spoke of how he returned to Kfar Etzion following the Six Day War and founded the Gush Emunim settlement movement. "Despite all the obstacles we faced we built thousands of units," he emphasized. 

Rabbi Porat also mentioned the story of his friend, Giora Ashkenazi, who fell during the battle for Jerusalem. He noted that twenty years, he had the privilege to perpetuate his friend's name in Yeshivat Orot on Mount Olives, which was established with the unconditional support of Dr. Irving Moskowitz. 

The annual $50,000 prize was established to support Zionist values in Israeli society and to promote the Jewish nationalist home of Israel. 

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5. COS Ganz Doesn't Rule Out Death Penalty for Itamar Murderers by David Ben Yacov Ganz Says Killers Aren't Human

IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Ganz appeared before the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee on Tuesday. 

Committee Chairman MK Shaul Mofaz (Kadima) congratulated the COS on his recent appointment, "Ganz is a worthy man", and qualified this by saying "but I have many reservations about the way he was appointed." 

Ganz related to the Itamar murders at the meeting, and said, "the killers aren't human". Ganz was asked by committee members if they should get the death penalty, and he responded, "I won't say anymore on the subject." 

On the Iranian threats Ganz said, "Iran is a major threat not only due to its intention to develop nuclear weapons, but also because of its ideological and military support of radical factions. 

Ganz related to the Middle East upheavals, saying that the scope of  threats on Israel have gotten wider, from knives to nuclear weapons. 

"There is present and future instability in the Arab states. The changes can be potentially positive, particularly when the leader is threatened by the people in the streets," he said. 

On the changes in Egypt he said, "Egypt is attempting to stabilize its economy and security situation, as well as its regime. Egypt is not a threat to Israel. We have peace with them, and it is an Israeli prerogative to reinforce this peace. On the other hand, it must be stated that Egypt is not as stable as it used to be, and therefore the level of our security guarantees must be higher than before. No doubt, we are concerned about the Sinai situation." 

As of this morning, Egyptian security forces were in hot pursuit of 400 Al Qaeda terrorists in the Sinai desert. 

The COS related to the fence being constructed in the South. "The fence provides a solution for the problems of border infiltration and weapons smuggling. We will complete the fence construction by the end of next year, earlier than previously projected." He added, "There have been 3114 infiltrations since the beginning of the year. Of them, only 140 infiltrators were sent back over the border." 

On Syria he estimated that "Assad does not know how Syria will look this week or the next. This insecurity disturbs him as it does us. There have been over 1200 killed in Damascus since the beginning of the uprising. The chances that Assad will attack Israel to ease his pressure are slim." He added that "there is Hizbollah influence in Syria." 

"There is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza, in any way, shape, or form." Clarifying, he explained: "In fighting terrorist organizations that attack from civilian locations we will have to use much more force in the next conflict, even if this extracts a high price from the other side. In this kind of combat we will have to provide humanitarian aid." 

Ganz related to Ultra-Orthodox IDF enlistment, and the phenomenon of army dropouts. "The number of Ultra-Orthodox soldiers in designated programs should be increased. The IDF dropout level is at 12%. I aim to reach a single-digit percentage." 

In conclusion, Ganz said, "I am willing to accept the great challenge placed before me, particularly in this sensitive period of time. Army professionalism is important to promote, but it is just as important to invest in values, where there is no room for compromise. I want to develop a regimen in the IDF where I hear what I need to hear from my people, and not what I want to hear. I will then be able to reach a decision, and demand it be carried out." 
 
 
6. Twelve Palestinian Jihad Militants Arrested in Jenin Area by Rachel Sylvetsky 12 Jihad Palestinians Arrested

The IDF reported early Tuesday morning that twelve Palestinian Islamic Jihad-associated militants were arrested in a joint activity of the IDF and ISA (Shin-Bet) which took place in the Jenin area last night. The activity was coordinated with the Civil Administration. 

The suspects are senior activists in the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the Judea and Samaria Region and are suspected of providing guidance in planning terror activities as well as transferring finances and taking an active part in the rebuilding of terror networks in the region. This is part of a continuing IDF-ISA campaign to prevent the infrastructure of terror  gaining hold in the Judea and Samaria region, aimed at the Islamic Jihad.. 

In addition, GOC Central Command, Maj. Gen. Avi Mizrahi, ordered to close the offices of the "El Bara'a" association in Jenin and its possessions were confiscated. These actions took place due to its associations with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and the Gaza-based organization "The Soul of Jerusalem", both of which were declared illegal organizations as they operate constantly in order to harm the security of Israel's citizens and security forces. 

The Islamic Jihad terrorist organization threatens openly to attack 'everywhere in Israel,'  and "applauds all efforts to respond to the crimes committed daily against our people," including the recent Jerusalem terror attack at the main bus station, which it applauded. 
 

7. Ya'alon: Pre-Emptive Strike on Iran Could be Necessary by Elad Benari Strike on Iran May be Necessary

Israel's Minister for Strategic Affairs, Moshe Ya'alon said on Monday that the civilized world must take joint action to avert the Iranian nuclear threat, and that action should including a pre-emptive strike if necessary. 

Ya'alon made the comments in an interview with Russia's Interfax news agency, ahead of his visit to Moscow. 

"We strongly hope that the entire civilized world will come to realize what threat this regime is posing and take joint action to avert the nuclear threat posed by Iran, even if it would be necessary to conduct a pre-emptive strike," Interfax quoted Ya'alon as saying. 

Though he would not discuss who might deal the strike, he stressed that the entire world and not just Israel, must be concerned about the danger posed by a nuclear-armed Iran. 

"An Iran possessing nuclear weapons would be a threat to the entire civilized world," he was quoted as saying. 

Ya'alon's spokesman later clarified to The Associated Press that the minister was simply repeating Israel's position that all options are on the table regarding Iran, and that he was not calling for anybody to attack the Islamic Republic. 

Ya'alon has previously said about Iran that it "is a threat to regional stability and is pulling strings behind the scenes. They are provoking Shi'ite leaders to challenge Arab regimes and stir the pot in Afghanistan and Iraq. The problem is not just the Iranian nuclear program, but the Iranian regime's behavior. Iran should not have a military nuclear capability. This regime should not continue its terrorist activities without paying a price."
 

8. Bibi: UN Statehood for PA is Like Declaring the World is Flat by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu PA State by UN? Is World Flat?

If the United Nations in September declares the Palestinian Authority to be a state, it might as well decide the world is flat, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Security Committee Monday. 

He said Israel cannot stop the resolution from going forward and has few friends n the international body, but a veto from any member of the United Nations Security Council would block the proposal from reaching the General Assembly, whose anti-Israel majority likely would approve it. 

"The General Assembly cannot take the initiative but we are ready to do our work as soon as a recommendation of the Security Council would be addressed," Joseph Deiss, president of the General Assembly said at a recent news conference. 

A recommendation for a new member of the United Nations must come from the Security Council, whose permanent members are the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia. U.S. President Barack Obama stated last week that it would be a mistake to declare the Palestinian Authority as a state without negotiations, but he has not specifically stated he would order a veto when the Arab League  proposal comes up for a vote. 

Prime Minister Netanyahu told the Knesset committee, "There is very strong support for Israel among the American people." 

Congress members stood up 31 times with loud rounds of applause during his speech before a special session of the House of Representatives and the Senate last week.   
 
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