[gingery_machines] Re: Anyone doing something Gingery?

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Tuesday, September 13, 2011

 

Rick:

I look forward to seeing any of your articles. As far as Gingery related, your articles deal with machining which is the genesis of all things Gingery.

Your contributions and wliingness to share as well as the plkain genius of it all is very inspiring and I for one appreciate it all.

--- In gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Tinker <mattinker@...> wrote:
>
> Rick,
> I hadn't seen this when I wrote my last email!
>
>
> "Maybe the best way to handle this is for anyone that wishes to be told
> about every article I write send me their email address. I will build an alias that will be used along with my selective notification. Please
> send your address off list to rgsparber@..."
>  
> Put me on your list!
>
> Regards, Matthew
>
>
> Matthew TINKER
> CNC conversion 1944 Colchester Lathe build-up log
> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35519
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rick Sparber <rgsparber@...>
> To: "gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com" <gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011, 14:31
> Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] Re: Anyone doing something Gingery?
>
>
>  
> Stewart,
>
> I do not want this discussion to cause dis-harmony in the group. I believe Wonk has a valid point.
>
> Each time I write an article, I decide which groups to notify. In many cases the list does not include gingery_machines because I don't think it fits. I just need to be a bit more careful.
>
> I often post to a lathe and mill group because they are focused more on types of machines rather than types of construction.
>
> Maybe the best way to handle this is for anyone that wishes to be told about every article I write send me their email address. I will build an alias that will be used along with my selective notification. Please send your address off list to rgsparber@...
>
> As for electric furnaces, you will find a few articles on my modified Hartman in the foundry section of my site. I like my electric furnace for the same reasons you are attracted to them. Just understand that efficient use requires you to plan the foundry day so you are busy doing other things while the furnace is heating up.
>
> Rick
> Rick.Sparber.org
>
> On Sep 13, 2011, at 1:47 AM, lists <Stuartlists@...> wrote:
>
> > In article <B2167E51-2D89-476D-8401-F31FCE9B5B8E@...>,
> > Rick <rgsparber@...> wrote:
> >> I am truly sorry for dominating the site. I had no idea. In the future I
> >> will be more selective about which articles I announce.
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> > I have not been a member of the group for long and I have enjoyed
> > everything you have written. I would ask you not to give up.
> >
> > Wonk's request for more posts from people building Gingery machines is
> > fine and I would certainly go along with it. You appear to be "dominating
> > the site" (your words) simply because others aren't posting. It's a bit
> > like me seeming to dominate morning worship in our church on a Sunday
> > morning. It's not that I do particularly, or that I want to, it's just
> > that other musicians seem to have more other commitments and aren't there
> > quite so often. Apart from my normal rota appearances I often fill in for
> > others when they can't make it.
> >
> > One other group I read is very quiet these days and if one particular
> > person didn't make posts on a regular basis, kicking off discussion, it
> > would be dead.
> >
> > I enjoyed reading Scott Trostel's "Why I built the Gingery lathe" and what
> > I would like, and I hope that was Wonk's thought too, is more of others
> > not less of you.
> >
> > I haven't done anything Gingery yet and it will probably be a while before
> > I do, due to time restraints, but I bought my first Gingery book, "The
> > charcoal foundry" last Saturday. I already have a couple of other books on
> > DIY metal casting and at the UK "Midlands Model Engineering exhibition" in
> > October, Noel Shelly is giving some demonstrations and lectures on the
> > subject. I am also a member of the "Home Foundry" group but have a
> > preference towards some sort of electric furnace (not too big though)
> > because of the cleanliness and controllability.
> >
> > --
> > Stuart Winsor
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

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[Fun_with_Bead-Patterns] Re: "AllAboutRaw" ALBUM - Mermaid Collar ????

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Hi Aurora, please check out the links below.

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> How can I get the pattern/instructions for this collar? (not looking for a freebe :)
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fun_with_Bead-Patterns/photos/album/2070522072/pic/156035793/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
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> Thank you
> Aurora
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[Fun_with_Bead-Patterns] Newsletter, Bead-Patterns the Magazine

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[gingery_machines] Re: From Group owner -- Anyone doing something Gingery?

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Thanks Chris,

I had no intention to stop Rick or anyone from posting, just wanted to relate that it is more interesting to view posts on a Gingery machine site that include Gingery machines. I think it would be rare for us to be able to dial into such prefection but I'm willing to learn.

Wonk

--- In gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com, "Chris (CB)" <boyercl@...> wrote:
>
> Allow me to clear this up for every one.
>
> While each group does have a specific topic we WILL allow
> related postings.
> After all we are more than the simple topic of a specific
> group.
> We DO actually BUILD things with these machines do we not ??
> It is that building of other things that has brought us here
> in the first place.
>
> Groups that are tightly controlled on subject matter are
> usually dead...
> So the occasional "off topic" subjects are what keeps us in
> contact and alive during the slow times.
>
> Any one having group specific topics is always welcome to post.
> Any one who does not like a specific subject is free to
> start another one or use their delete key.
> Any one with a complaint as to group content is free to
> contact me OFF LIST !!!
>
> Having said this there are 3 subjects that are prohibited.
> Adult (sex), politics, religion.
> There are way to many places to get your daily fill of these
> topics -- not here...
>
>
> Any questions ?? Contact me off line and I will clear them up..
>
> Thank you
>
> Chris (CB)
> Group owner...
>
>
>
>

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[gingery_machines] Re: Anyone doing something Gingery?

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I had no intention to stopping you from posting articles! That would be a crime! What I was trying to do was turn your head to include how to use your thoughts to make better Gingery type machines or improvments to the original plans. Please do not stop posting!

Thanks Wonk

--- In gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com, Rick <rgsparber@...> wrote:
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> Wonk and others I have stopped from posting,
>
> I am truly sorry for dominating the site. I had no idea. In the future I will be more selective about which articles I announce.
>
> Thanks for pointing this out to me.
>
> I'm glad you did not leave the site Wonk. That would have been a loss.
>
> Rick
> rick.sparber.org
>
> On Sep 12, 2011, at 9:54 PM, "Wonk" <tiwonk@...> wrote:
>
> > Rick,
> >
> > You are surley missing the point- look at the past postings and you will see there have been very little posted on Gingery stuff while you have been running the show with your articles! Once I brought up Gingery it is amazing that those who were waiting in the wings seemed to come out of the woodwork again. I've seen this happen several times in the past and it even caused me to edit and retreat from this site. I was asked to rejoin by Clint before he past away, and I try to be a good lurker and ignore posts that I have no value in reading but........
> > Yes I have been flamed into changing my handle by those with stronger words than me and the need to carry the argument to a personal level, but I feel no shame in doing so!
> > Like I said your articles are great but when they seemingly take away from the site, so those who need the help or want to show off what they can do seem to lurk in the background. I'm off my soapbox and since I'm not the site owner or moderator I will bow to your need to post. My hopes will be that those who want to say something about Gingery machines will speak up, and yes other metal related stuff is good also
> >
> > Back to lurk
> >
> > Wonk
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com, "RG Sparber" <rgsparber@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Wonk,
> >>
> >> I hope that no one would feel prevented from posting an email on building a
> >> Gingery machine just because I was blathering on about precision or any
> >> other subject.
> >>
> >> I strongly feel that people must not bring up religion or politics on this
> >> site. But beyond that, if it is metal working and at all related to how to
> >> build or use a machine, it seems fair game. I'm sure plenty of people have
> >> me on their "bozo filter". That is fine with me.
> >>
> >> I'm sure you agree that Gingery is more about an attitude than a specific
> >> machine. To me this covers a wide range of endeavors.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> >> [mailto:gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wonk
> >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:41 PM
> >> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: [gingery_machines] Re: Anyone doing something Gingery?
> >>
> >> Rick,
> >>
> >> I agree that the more precise we make the machines the better they work.
> >> What I was implying was that the disscusion on precision was taking over the
> >> group rather than focusing on Gingery design machines.
> >> If you can somehow aime your precision toward how to build/ modify the
> >> Gingery series better I would be all for it. I like reading your articles
> >> and think you have some great ideas, I wish not to discourage precision but
> >> to champion the building and modification of Gingery as our main topic.
> >>
> >>
> >> Wonk
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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[gingery_machines] Re: new article available: Laser Printing to Metal

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There is a little misconception I am seeing here about laser printers. Laser Printers do not apply toner to the paper in a "dot" pattern such as an ink jet printer does. What happens is the pattern to be printed is applied to what is called the "drum" with the help of the laser. When the drum rolls around, & the paper is below the image area the toner is pulled to the paper via an electrical charge (by the corona wire). Once the image is applied to the paper it passes through something called the "fuser". The fuser basically irons the toner onto the paper with heat. That is why paper feels worm or even hot when first coming out of the printer. Some HP laser printers allow you to control the temp of the fuser, and the density of the toner applied. Check your owner's manual for how to do this. Drop the temp of the fuser & or increasing toner density should help. BUT be careful with the page once it comes out of the printer because the toner has not been properly fused to the paper & will smear.

Brian

--- In gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com, "RG Sparber" <rgsparber@...> wrote:
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> It may be possible to spray a fine mist of acetone on the toner. The hope is
> to reflow it so the holes close. When I overspray with Rust-Oleum Crystal
> Clear Enamel, the solvent in it makes the toner look darker. It is my
> understanding that this is because the toner reflows. But you can't use the
> enamel in your application.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Butcher
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:24 AM
> To: gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [gingery_machines] Re: new article available: Laser Printing to
> Metal
>
> The leakage of plating solution through the toner may be another problem.
> Some laser printers tend to print a bunch of closely spaced dots instead of
> a solid. I have had problems with this in the past on PCBs causing tiny
> breaks in the circuit. Look at the toner with high magnification, perhaps
> with back lighting to see if this is the problem. Sometimes this can be
> improved by adjusting the printer for darker images, since often the default
> is an economy mode that conserves toner. Another possibility is that the 
> metal being plated might have not been clean enough. On PCB's I usually
> clean them with an SOS pad followed by Scothbrite and dish detergent. When
> really clean water should run off in a sheet rather than forming beads. Just
> a thought, it also could be what you said.
> Bob
>

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Re: [gingery_machines] Re: Anyone doing something Gingery?

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rick,
i always look forward to your contributions to this  group. I suspect that the overwhelming
majority of the members feel  the same as I do. I am not going to insult everyone's intelligence by explaining why your work is useful to me.
no need to respond to this email. Don't change a thing!
dale king

--- On Tue, 9/13/11, Matthew Tinker <mattinker@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Matthew Tinker <mattinker@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] Re: Anyone doing something Gingery?
To: "gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com" <gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2011, 8:16 AM

 

Rick,

I hadn't seen this when I wrote my last email!

"Maybe the best way to handle this is for anyone that wishes to be told

about every article I write send me their email address. I will build an alias that will be used along with my selective notification. Please

send your address off list to rgsparber@aol.com."

 

Put me on your list!

Regards, Matthew

Matthew TINKER

CNC conversion 1944 Colchester Lathe build-up log

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35519

________________________________

From: Rick Sparber <rgsparber@aol.com>

To: "gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com" <gingery_machines@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011, 14:31

Subject: Re: [gingery_machines] Re: Anyone doing something Gingery?

 

Stewart,

I do not want this discussion to cause dis-harmony in the group. I believe Wonk has a valid point.

Each time I write an article, I decide which groups to notify. In many cases the list does not include gingery_machines because I don't think it fits. I just need to be a bit more careful.

I often post to a lathe and mill group because they are focused more on types of machines rather than types of construction.

Maybe the best way to handle this is for anyone that wishes to be told about every article I write send me their email address. I will build an alias that will be used along with my selective notification. Please send your address off list to rgsparber@aol.com.

As for electric furnaces, you will find a few articles on my modified Hartman in the foundry section of my site. I like my electric furnace for the same reasons you are attracted to them. Just understand that efficient use requires you to plan the foundry day so you are busy doing other things while the furnace is heating up.

Rick

Rick.Sparber.org

On Sep 13, 2011, at 1:47 AM, lists <Stuartlists@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <B2167E51-2D89-476D-8401-F31FCE9B5B8E@aol.com>,

> Rick <rgsparber@aol.com> wrote:

>> I am truly sorry for dominating the site. I had no idea. In the future I

>> will be more selective about which articles I announce.

>

> Rick,

>

> I have not been a member of the group for long and I have enjoyed

> everything you have written. I would ask you not to give up.

>

> Wonk's request for more posts from people building Gingery machines is

> fine and I would certainly go along with it. You appear to be "dominating

> the site" (your words) simply because others aren't posting. It's a bit

> like me seeming to dominate morning worship in our church on a Sunday

> morning. It's not that I do particularly, or that I want to, it's just

> that other musicians seem to have more other commitments and aren't there

> quite so often. Apart from my normal rota appearances I often fill in for

> others when they can't make it.

>

> One other group I read is very quiet these days and if one particular

> person didn't make posts on a regular basis, kicking off discussion, it

> would be dead.

>

> I enjoyed reading Scott Trostel's "Why I built the Gingery lathe" and what

> I would like, and I hope that was Wonk's thought too, is more of others

> not less of you.

>

> I haven't done anything Gingery yet and it will probably be a while before

> I do, due to time restraints, but I bought my first Gingery book, "The

> charcoal foundry" last Saturday. I already have a couple of other books on

> DIY metal casting and at the UK "Midlands Model Engineering exhibition" in

> October, Noel Shelly is giving some demonstrations and lectures on the

> subject. I am also a member of the "Home Foundry" group but have a

> preference towards some sort of electric furnace (not too big though)

> because of the cleanliness and controllability.

>

> --

> Stuart Winsor

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[purecapitalism] MR. PAPANDREOU, BRING MY COMPUTER AND FILES BACK!

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October-18 Mafia has robbed my computer and files at gunpoint! Accusing dissident bloggers of treason, Graecokleptocrats have manufactured a blood libel in cyberspace, which in turn incites hatred and violence. The freakish October-18 Mafia, is the only government on Earth which robs the computers of its citizens! Infamous CCU is the brutal arm of October-18 mafia which terrorizes the cyberspace, robbing computers and files at gunpoint, perjuring, jailing dissident bloggers, and gagging the truth. CCU of Graecokleptocracy is the most disgusting gang in Fourth Reich.

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Global Tax Revolt was the first organization to report the October-18 2010 terror to all banks, hedge funds, big investors, traders, and analysts. As a result, the yields of Greek treasury bonds skyrocketted, as no prudent investor was willing to touch them. Marilizard's stupidity cost October-18 Mafia many billions of euros! The only thing October-18 Mafia got out of this terror is toilet paper in the form of worthless Greek treasury bonds! CCU jail needs toilet paper anyhow!

In a free society, we are supposed to know the truth. In marilizardist Graecokleptocracy, where truth on internet becomes treason, however, netizens are in big trouble. Freakish Graecokleptocrats, who stole billions of euros and never went to jail, have the nerve to jail innocent dissident bloggers! The entropy of an organization is proportional to the square of its size. The government of Graecokleptocracy needs only four ministers, but it has forty. No wonder, October-18 Mafia cannot control its freakish ministers, who do not have any better thing to do than suing innocent dissident bloggers, confiscating their computers, and locking them in jail for treason! Stolen lives are the major legacy of the October-18 mafia, a pack of mad dogs! Freak galore!

Hillary Clinton points out the internet has become the public space of the 21st century – the world's town square, classroom, marketplace, coffeehouse, and nightclub. We all shape and are shaped by what happens there, all three billion netizens. And that presents a challenge. To maintain an internet that delivers the greatest possible benefits to the world, we need to have a serious conversation about the principles that will guide us, what rules exist and should not exist and why, what behaviors should be encouraged or discouraged and how.

Clinton notes the goal is not to tell people how to use the internet any more than we ought to tell people how to use any public square, whether it's Tahrir Square or Times Square. The value of these spaces derives from the variety of activities people can pursue in them, from holding a rally to selling their vegetables, to having a private conversation. These spaces provide an open platform, and so does the internet. It does not serve any particular agenda, and it never should. But if people around the world are going to come together every day online and have a safe and productive experience, we need a shared vision to guide us.

Marilizardism has metastasized in Middle East and Balkans. Hillary Clinton laments that security is often invoked as a justification for harsh marilizardist crackdowns on freedom. Now, this marilizardist tactic is not new to the digital age, but it has new resonance as the internet has given marilizardist governments new capacities for tracking and punishing human rights advocates and political dissidents.

Marilizardist governments that arrest bloggers, pry into the peaceful activities of their citizens, and limit their access to the internet may claim to be seeking security. In fact, they may even mean it as they define it. But they are taking the wrong path. Those marilizardists who clamp down on internet freedom may be able to hold back the full expression of their people's yearnings for a while, but not forever.

The civilized approach does not immediately discredit every hateful idea or convince every bigot to reverse his thinking. But we have determined as a society that it is far more effective than any other alternative approach. Marilizardism, deleting writing, blocking content, arresting speakers – these actions suppress words, but they do not touch the underlying ideas. They simply drive people with those ideas to the fringes, where their convictions can deepen, unchallenged.

Marilizardism is the #1 enemy of cyberspace. Liberty and security, transparency and confidentiality, freedom of expression and tolerance – these all make up the foundation of a free, open, and secure society as well as a free, open, and secure internet where universal human rights are respected, and which provides a space for greater progress and prosperity over the long run.

Now, some marilizardist countries are trying a different approach, abridging rights online and working to erect permanent walls between different activities – economic exchanges, political discussions, religious expressions, and social interactions. They want to keep what they like and suppress what they don't. But this is no easy task. Search engines connect businesses to new customers, and they also attract users because they deliver and organize news and information. Social networking sites aren't only places where friends share photos; they also share political views and build support for social causes or reach out to professional contacts to collaborate on new business opportunities. Marilizardism is in full swing in all barbarian societies.

The government of Greece, October-18 mafia, and other marilizardist governments harass their netizens. Clinton points out that walls that divide the internet, that block political content, or ban broad categories of expression, or allow certain forms of peaceful assembly but prohibit others, or intimidate people from expressing their ideas are far easier to erect than to maintain. Not just because people using human ingenuity find ways around them and through them but because there isn't an economic internet and a social internet and a political internet; there's just the internet.

Maintaining marilizardist barriers that attempt to change this reality entails a variety of costs – moral, political, and economic. Marilizardist countries may be able to absorb these costs for a time, but they are unsustainable in the long run. There are opportunity costs for trying to be open for business but closed for free expression – costs to a nation's education system, its political stability, its social mobility, and its economic potential.

When marilizardist countries curtail internet freedom, they place limits on their economic future. Their young people don't have full access to the conversations and debates happening in the world or exposure to the kind of free inquiry that spurs people to question old ways of doing and invent new ones. And barring criticism of marilizardist officials makes governments more susceptible to corruption, which create economic distortions with long-term effects. Freedom of thought and the level playing field made possible by the rule of law are part of what fuels innovation economies.

MEMORY OF OCTOBER-18 2010 NIGHT
With our compliments to Elaine Paige and Cats:

Midnight. Not a sound from Athens
Has humanity lost her memory?
Marilizard is smiling alone.
Thrown in jail by marilizardists
And the mind begins to moan.

The iron door beats a fatalistic warning.
A guard brings a slice of bread
And soon it will be morning.

Memory. All alone in jail
I can smile at the old days
I was beautiful then.
I remember the time I knew what happiness was
Let the memory live again.

Memory. Turn your face to the light
Let your memory lead you
Open up, enter in.
If you find there the meaning of what happiness is
Then a new life will begin.

Burnt out ends of smoky days
In stale cold jail this morning.
The jail lamp dies, another night is over
Another day is dawning.

Daylight. I must wait for the sunrise
I must think of a new life
And I mustn't give in.
When the dawn comes tonight will be a memory too
And a new day will begin.

Sunlight, through the cracks of jail
Endless masquerading.
As the dawn is breaking
The memory is fading.

Touch me, it's so easy to leave me
All alone with the memory
Of my days in the sun.
If you touch me you'll understand what happiness is
Look, a new day has begun.


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