To be an American
1. be born a citizen or become one by naturalization
2. be loyal to THIS NATION and no other
3. speaka da Engleeesh
4. get a good education (graduate high school at least)
5. get job that supports you and your family (if you have one)
6. contribute to your school and community either by volunteering or $$
--- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com, Susan <sailorgirl43@...> wrote:
>
> Oh for God's sake. get over it. What makes an American an American. All the
> immigrants couldn't wait to be American. Coke, baseball, and etc.
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...>wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > 
> > What exactly do you call assimilating? here in the US, parents can home
> > school their own children,, education is also compulsory but is this
> > assimiliating? Do these folks not still speak their native language among
> > themselves and neighborhood? Do they not still celebrate certain holidays
> > and religious festivals and all? Don't some of them even stick to religious
> > forum of slaughter of their livestock? Do some of them still read a
> > newspaper or news in their native language? here in the US, we have
> > satelittle tv, and one can watch various channels in various languages, like
> > Korean, chinese, spanish, etc,, What exactly is assimilating?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* elaine mckay <glyndon47@...>
> > *To:* Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:13 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs.
> > Capitalism: both have good and bad points
> >
> > Yes they have, as much as we are able, education now compulsory, Moslems
> > from India, malaysia indonesia, no problem with assimilation
> >
> > --- On *Wed, 8/12/10, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...>
> > Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism:
> > both have good and bad points
> > To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Wednesday, 8 December, 2010, 1:17 PM
> >
> >
> > 
> > Ah,, I think the aboriginal people might not have assimilated into your
> > society,, and I doubt that folks from India which is not muslim also have
> > not,,
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* elaine mckay<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=glyndon47@...>
> > *To:* Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:42 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs.
> > Capitalism: both have good and bad points
> >
> > Well the only other people here were the aboriginal people, and I'm sure
> > they said bad things about us, because we treated them badly. Wiped them out
> > completely in Tasmania. The fact I was alluding to was fact that many races
> > have settled in Australia and all have assimilated. The exeption is moslem
> > people from the middle east. Not, enterestingly enough moslems from other
> > countries.
> >
> > --- On *Mon, 6/12/10, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...>
> > Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism:
> > both have good and bad points
> > To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Monday, 6 December, 2010, 4:05 PM
> >
> >
> > 
> > and your roots go back to the immigrants, I wonder how your folks would
> > have felt if the same type of stuff was being said about them?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* elaine mckay<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=glyndon47@...>
> > *To:* Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
> > *Sent:* Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:14 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs.
> > Capitalism: both have good and bad points
> >
> > yep, all our origins were from uk. some free settlers, many convicts.
> > those who have convict ancesters are extremly proud
> > , as most of them were convicted of stealing a loaf of bread etc.
> > my own come from the scottish highlands during the "clearances
> > ". we have had many migrations from many countrys since. Greek, Italian,
> > Slav's Poles, Vietnamese, chinese etc., only one culture has steadfastly
> > refused to assimilate.
> >
> > --- On *Sun, 5/12/10, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...>
> > Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism:
> > both have good and bad points
> > To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Sunday, 5 December, 2010, 1:16 PM
> >
> >
> > 
> > Yes,, it was and that is the orgins of the white folks in Australia,, they
> > will admit to this,
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* patrick mc govern<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mcgvrn_ptrck@...>
> > *To:* Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
> > *Sent:* Saturday, December 04, 2010 5:01 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs.
> > Capitalism: both have good and bad points
> >
> > It was a British penal colony if I'm not mistaken
> >
> > *You can lead people to knowledge but you can't make them think*
> >
> >
> > --- On *Sat, 12/4/10, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=springcreek@...>
> > >* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=springcreek@...>
> > >
> > Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism:
> > both have good and bad points
> > To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 5:24 PM
> >
> >
> > 
> > again, read your own history,, where did the orginal white folks come from
> > to australia?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* elaine mckay<http://us.mc585.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=glyndon47@...>
> > *To:* Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc585.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
> > *Sent:* Saturday, December 04, 2010 4:55 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs.
> > Capitalism: both have good and bad points
> >
> > They come from the middle east, they get to indonesia,and pay for a boat
> > trip.
> >
> > --- On *Sat, 4/12/10, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...<http://us.mc585.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=springcreek@...>
> > >* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...<http://us.mc585.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=springcreek@...>
> > >
> > Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism:
> > both have good and bad points
> > To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc585.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
> > Received: Saturday, 4 December, 2010, 3:22 PM
> >
> >
> > 
> > Where do these folks that come to australia comes from? Read your own
> > australia history,, where did your people come from?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* elaine mckay<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=glyndon47@...>
> > *To:* Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com>
> > *Sent:* Friday, December 03, 2010 2:31 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs.
> > Capitalism: both have good and bad points
> >
> > Europe has been flooded with refugees from the wars in iraq and
> > afghanistan.
> > Scandinavia has changed it's laws to try and prevent it being as big a
> > problem for them.
> >
> > Big probs in France, where getto's and demonstrations have sprung up,
> > Italy and spain.
> >
> > People in Australia winge about the boat loads of refugees we get which are
> > taken to detention centres, where they demonstrate and stage hunger strikes.
> > however it is such a small number compared to europe.
> > Our lawsw state that children cannot be kept in detention and must go to
> > school. I guess we hope the education will break the cycle.
> > --- On *Fri, 3/12/10, Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Sheep&Goatlady <springcreek@...>
> > Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism:
> > both have good and bad points
> > To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Friday, 3 December, 2010, 9:03 PM
> >
> >
> > well, the problem like here is, the foreign workers will work for less,,
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "iloveubuntulinux" <valchaulinux@...<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=valchaulinux%40gmail.com>
> > >
> > To: <Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Politics_CurrentEvents_Group%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:19 PM
> > Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Socialism vs. Capitalism: both
> > have good and bad points
> >
> > Europe's socialism has some good points except that it permitted foreign
> > workers and too much foreign immigration
> >
> > --- In Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Politics_CurrentEvents_Group%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > patrick mc govern
> > <mcgvrn_ptrck@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Capitalism is not self sustaining. If there is no middle class to
> > purchase
> > > goods and services than Capitalism will eventually fail, thus proving
> > that
> > > no one economic model is the answer. Now where it co exists with a social
> >
> > > safety net, its thriving. Sweden and Finland are perfect examples of this
> >
> > > sucessful model
> > >
> > >
> > > Â You can lead people to knowledge but you can't make them think
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 11/30/10, Dave Ketchum <davek@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Dave Ketchum <davek@>
> > > Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Socialism vs. Capitalism: Which
> > is
> > > the Moral System
> > > To: PEACENET@, Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com<http://au.mc623.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Politics_CurrentEvents_Group%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Tuesday, November 30, 2010, 9:47 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Reading too much about the evils of capitalism, I went looking for a
> > > defense, and found one I liked: Â
> > > "http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/onprin/v1n3/thompson.html" -Â On
> > > Principle, v1n3, October 1993, by: C. Bradley Thompson.  Based on the
> > > words I like there:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "The intellectualsâ?T mantra runs something like this: In theory
> > socialism
> > > is the morally superior social system despite its dismal record of
> > failure
> > > in the real world. Capitalism, by contrast, is a morally bankrupt system
> > > despite the extraordinary prosperity it has created. In other words,
> > > capitalism at best, can only be defended on pragmatic grounds. We
> > tolerate
> > > it because it works."
> > >
> > >
> > > "Capitalism is the only moral system because it requires human beings to
> > > deal with one another as traders--that is, as free moral agents trading
> > > and selling goods and services on the basis of mutual consent."
> > > "Capitalism is the only just system because the sole criterion that
> > > determines the value of thing exchanged is the free, voluntary, universal
> >
> > > judgement of the consumer. Coercion and fraud are anathema to the
> > > free-market system."
> > > I think of restaurants as, usually, capitalistic efforts - rewarding
> > those
> > > who produce well. Â On the other hand, some of what involves lots of
> > money
> > > is not truly capitalism because of the ways decisions are made and
> > > rewarded.
> > > Seems like we live in a mixed economy of capitalism and socialism. Â
> > Makes
> > > sense, but we could sometimes do better as to how we mix them together. Â
> >
> > > Part of what I read here seems biased too much against socialism.
> > >
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