Liberals believe in individual freedoms, Conservatives believe in restricting individual freedoms. Liberals believe in restricting economic freedoms because a completely free market would harm the masses, Conservatives believe in complete economic freedom because profit is more important than people
You can lead people to knowledge but you can't make them think
--- On Thu, 3/3/11, elaine mckay <glyndon47@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
From: elaine mckay <glyndon47@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: RE: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: they're losing
To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 3:19 AM
True freedom for banks: freedon to lend people more then they cann afford, banks to be as greedy and deregulated as possible = world wide crash. Liberals want freedom from greed of companies and multinationals, conservatives want everyone to stand up strait and lok down on the rest.
--- On Thu, 3/3/11, Julie Dinkins-Borkowski <julie@borkowskifamily.com> wrote:
From: Julie Dinkins-Borkowski <julie@borkowskifamily.com>
Subject: RE: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: they're losing
To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, 3 March, 2011, 12:29 PM
I appreciate your honesty about being a lifelong socialist. However, if you have lived under socialism all your life, then I am fairly sure that you do not know what true freedom is all about. But I do, and I will not let that freedom go. We are not the first people to have mutually pledged to protect that freedom, and we won't be the last. A freedom that is so sacred that people pledged to protect it with their lives, fortunes, and their sacred honor, and it's working. Those are not just words in a 200 year old document. It is a core belief that runs deep in this nation. Believe it or not, we are winning the war against socialism in this country. People are awake and enlightened, and working to stop it . We almost let freedom slip through our fingers, but the last election has shown that Socialism will never take hold here in America. We are Americans. We don't 'do' socialism, and we never will. Thank you again for your honesty. God Save America! ~homeschooljules Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid. ~ Albert Einstein 
~computerjules From: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Gates
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:10 AM
To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: they're losing I've said this before, I've lived under socialism all my life, I feel no loss of freedom and the only dictator I can remember was Maggie Thatcher, she went too far to the right and was removed by her own party
From: Julie Dinkins-Borkowski <julie@borkowskifamily.com>
To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 2 March, 2011 5:52:22
Subject: RE: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: they're losing
And socialism leads to dictatorships and loss of freedom. Ok genius. What do you propose? Peacefully yours, ~homeschooljules Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid. ~ Albert Einstein ~computerjules From: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrick mc govern
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Subject: RE: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: they're losing | Capitalism in its purest form is not sustainable as most Intelligent Americans are well aware of now You can lead people to knowledge but you can't make them think
--- On Mon, 2/28/11, Julie Dinkins-Borkowski <julie@borkowskifamily.com> wrote:
From: Julie Dinkins-Borkowski <julie@borkowskifamily.com>
Subject: RE: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: they're losing
To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 9:42 PM
~homeschooljules Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid. ~ Albert Einstein ~computerjules From: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of voice.of.god
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 6:58 PM
To: Politics_CurrentEvents_Group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Politics_CurrentEvents_Group] Re: Fwd: they're losing Every government program that is cut only adds to the unemployment count and reduces the cash flow that keeps our economy floating, and in doing this, actually hurts the private employment sector because the reduction in cash flow reduces the demand for goods and services that keeps the capitalists in $10 cigars. They will also be forced to cut back, depending on existing inventory to buy those $10 cigars.
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> I happen to think that cutting those programs will help create jobs, as well
> as help to save America. Government is so overbloated and we must stop
> feeding the beast. It is consuming us. Obama and the Democrats have
> exploded the growth of government exponentially since they were in power and
> then stimulated, bailed out, regurgitated the industries willing to submit
> themselves to the will of Government control and government regulation.
> That never works. That ruins the middle class.
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> Peacefully yours,
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> <http://www.homeschooljules.com/> ~homeschooljules
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> Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a
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> 2480.html> Take five steps back and consider the nature of the political
> conversation in our nation's capital. You would never know that it's taking
> place at a moment when unemployment is still at 9 percent, when wages for so
> many people are stagnating at best and when the United States faces
> unprecedented challenges to its economic dominance.
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> 2480.html> No, Washington is acting as if the only real problem the United
> States confronts is the budget deficit; the only test of leadership is
> whether the president is willing to make big cuts in programs that protect
> the elderly; and the largest threat to our prosperity comes from public
> employees.
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> 2480.html> Take five more steps back and you realize how successful the Tea
> Party has been. No matter how much liberals may poke fun at them, Tea Party
> partisans can claim victory in fundamentally altering the country's
> dialogue.
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> 2480.html> Consider all of the problems taking a back seat to the deficit in
> Washington and the media. You haven't heard much lately on how Wall Street
> shenanigans tanked the economy in the first place - and in the process made
> a small number of people very rich. Yet any discussion of the problems
> caused by concentrated wealth (a vital mainstream issue in the America of
> Andrew Jackson and both Roosevelts) is confined to the academic or left-wing
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> kids are encountering if they want to go to college.
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> elderly but not much about facts such as this one, courtesy of a report last
> fall from the Employee Benefit Research Institute: People over 75 "were more
> likely than other age groups - including children under 18 - to live on
> incomes equal to or less than 200 percent of poverty."
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> 2480.html> Thanks to the Tea Party, we are now told that all our problems
> will be solved by cutting government programs. Thus the House Republicans'
> budget bill passed Saturday. They foresee nirvana if we simply reduce our
> spending on Head Start, Pell grants for college access, teen pregnancy
> prevention, clean-water programs, K-12 education and a host of other areas.
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> 2480.html> Does anyone really think that cutting such programs will create
> jobs or help Americans get ahead? But give the Tea Party guys credit: They
> have seized the political and media agenda and made budget cutting as
> fashionable as Justin Bieber was five minutes ago.
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> political elite, which looks down at the more extreme men and women of the
> right when they appear on Fox News but ends up carrying their water.
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> 2480.html> Lori Montgomery reported in The Post last week that a bipartisan
> group of senators thinks a sensible deficit reduction package would involve
> lifting the Social Security retirement age to 69 and reforming taxes,
> purportedly to raise revenue, in a way that would cut the top income tax
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> sacrifice" as telling nurses' aides and coal miners they have to work until
> age 69 while sharply cutting tax rates on wealthy people. I see why
> conservative Republicans like this. I honestly don't get why Democrats -
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> government - yes, more government - in areas that would expand opportunities
> and strengthen the economy. That argument has been entirely drowned out. If
> politics is reduced to a crabbed and crabby accountants' war, Obama loses.
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